Skip to content

Red Kihunter Shaft: plasma kills #2820

New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

Sign up for GitHub

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

Merged
osse101 merged 7 commits into from
Apr 8, 2026
+27 −23
Merged

Red Kihunter Shaft: plasma kills #2820

Changes from 5 commits
Commits
Show all changes
7 commits
Select commit Hold shift + click to select a range
84738e9
Red Kihunter Shaft: plasma kill / hitbox top
dragonsinth Apr 3, 2026
a8ceb27
Update region/lowernorfair/east/Red Kihunter Shaft.json
dragonsinth Apr 3, 2026
4c7c571
remove dev notes
dragonsinth Apr 3, 2026
570e131
feedback
dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026
f14227c
feedback
dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026
e0f64c4
rm top hitboxing
dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026
65be1af
and
dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026
File filter

Filter by extension

Filter by extension
Conversations
Failed to load comments.
Loading
Jump to
Jump to file
Failed to load files.
Loading
Diff view
Diff view
59 changes: 36 additions & 23 deletions region/lowernorfair/east/Red Kihunter Shaft.json
View file
Open in desktop
Original file line number Diff line number Diff line change
Expand Up @@ -1089,29 +1089,20 @@
{
"id": 33,
"link": [3, 7],
"name": "Wave Plasma Kill (Bottom)",
"name": "Plasma Kill (Bottom)",
"requires": [
"Wave",
{"or": [
"Wave",
["canDodgeWhileShooting", {"heatFrames": 60}]
]},
"Plasma",
{"heatFrames": 300}
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"blueSuitChecked": true,
"note": "Immediately move left to the end of the runway to prevent the Kihunter from descending."
},
{
"link": [3, 7],
"name": "Plasma Kihunter Kill (Bottom)",
"requires": [
"canDodgeWhileShooting",
"Plasma",
{"heatFrames": 360}
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"blueSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"Immediately move left to the end of the runway to prevent the Kihunter from descending.",
"Fire shots upward through the edge of the platform while standing safely under the ledge."
"The Kihunter can be safely killed without Wave by firing shots up through the edge of the platform."
]
},
{
Expand Down Expand Up @@ -1985,7 +1976,7 @@
{
"id": 65,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Slow Kihunter Kill",
"name": "Slow Kihunter Kill (Top)",
"requires": [
"h_heatProof",
"canBePatient",
Expand All @@ -2011,7 +2002,7 @@
{
"id": 66,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Tank the Damage",
"name": "Tank the Damage (Top)",
"requires": [
"canDash",
{"enemyDamage": {"enemy": "Kihunter (red)", "type": "contact", "hits": 2}},
Expand All @@ -2024,7 +2015,7 @@
{
"id": 67,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Super Kill",
"name": "Super Kill (Top)",
"requires": [
"canDash",
{"enemyKill": {
Expand All @@ -2039,7 +2030,7 @@
{
"id": 68,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Ice Wave Spazer Kill",
"name": "Ice Wave Spazer Kill (Top)",
"requires": [
"canDash",
"Wave",
Expand All @@ -2053,20 +2044,27 @@
{
"id": 69,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Wave Plasma Kill",
"name": "Plasma Kill (Top)",
"requires": [
"canDash",
"Wave",
{"or": [
"Wave",
["canDodgeWhileShooting", {"heatFrames": 160}]
]},
"Plasma",
{"heatFrames": 840}
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"blueSuitChecked": true
"blueSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"The top Kihunter can be safely killed without Wave by firing shots up through the edge of the upper platform.",
"It's faster if the top Kihunter descends, because some shots will hit both enemies."
]
},
{
"id": 70,
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Screw Kill",
"name": "Screw Kill (Top)",
"requires": [
"canDash",
"ScrewAttack",
Expand All @@ -2076,6 +2074,21 @@
"blueSuitChecked": true,
"note": "Be careful when wall jumping because Screw Attack does not provide protection at that time."
},
{
"link": [7, 5],
"name": "Hitbox the Kihunters (Top)",
Copy link
Copy Markdown
Contributor

@osse101 osse101 Apr 6, 2026

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

This isn't reliable so should be removed.
There is a plasma hitbox manip strat that can be added as [3, 5] as part of the canInsaneJump option I suggestted over there.

Copy link
Copy Markdown
Contributor Author

@dragonsinth dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Hmm, should I try to play around with this more to find a more reliable setup? Or like, this just isn't viable at any difficulty?

Copy link
Copy Markdown
Contributor Author

@dragonsinth dragonsinth Apr 6, 2026

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Or, I guess it would have to be something less than Expert to even be worth mentioning; otherwise you can do the other strats without needing plasma.

Copy link
Copy Markdown
Contributor

@osse101 osse101 Apr 8, 2026 •
edited
Loading

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

I can't find a simple set of movements that 100% avoids the middle kihunter getting stuck where you jump up, so you have to kill it in that case. It needs to be something really simple, and that's why the canInsaneJump version where you just do the room as fast as you can is a candidate.

Copy link
Copy Markdown
Contributor Author

@dragonsinth dragonsinth Apr 8, 2026

Choose a reason for hiding this comment

The reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more.

Ahh ok. I assumed it had to do with the uncertainty around the top kihunter descending or not. Cool, cool, I'll play around a bit and see what I see. :)

"requires": [
"h_PlasmaHitbox",
"canTrickyJump",
{"heatFrames": 540}
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"blueSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"Use Plasma to run or jump through the Kihunters.",
"The middle Kihunter can often be dodged directly."
]
},
{
"id": 71,
"link": [7, 5],
Expand Down
Loading