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Update namcos12.cpp - truckk can't be a Japanese set #13337

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@mamehaze mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

marked it as ASIA/US? instead but it's most likely a US set, due to Parental Advisory warning.

The Japanese language in-game is hardcoded to disabled (windyfairy did some research on it before)

A real Japanese set would likely be hardcoded to Japanese in-game, or have the option to choose enabled. That would most likely have the code TKK1, rather than TKK2 (although we can't be sure as the number is just release order, not region)

marked it as ASIA/US? instead but it's most likely a US set, due to Parental Advisory warning.

The Japanese language in-game is hardcoded to disabled (windyfairy did some research on it before)

A real Japanese set would likely be hardcoded to Japanese in-game, or have the option to choose enabled.
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happppp commented Feb 7, 2025

Since it has the US warning screen, why think it might be the Asia version?

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mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

Vas and RB seemed to think that some regions of Asia might also display that warning, since it doesn't also have the WDUD, only the warning.

It's certainly an odd set, because a lot isn't localized, but no Japan warning and no Japan language option for in-game text (even if it does exist in the code) means we can be sure it isn't for Japan.

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happppp commented Feb 7, 2025

Where did Vas and RB say that? And why didn't they change for example tektagtub/tektagtuc1 to Asia/US?
Soul Calibur and Fighting Layer Asia versions don't show the warning. I did not check other drivers.

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cuavas commented Feb 7, 2025

It was in the shout box.

It isn’t a US rating screen – if it was it would use ESRB terminology (“Everyone”). It isn’t a Hong Kong/Taiwan/Southeast Asia GSRR rating either, as that would be “General Public”. It isn’t a PEGI rating, as it would get the 3+ due to being too difficult for a toddler to play. It isn’t an Australian OFLC rating – that would be “G” for general audiences.

It’s close to the wording for a Korean GSRB rating, but IIRC the media laws there at the time still would have required completely scrubbing Japanese text.

We’ve seen Korean and English language flyers for the game with Asia/Pacific distributors listed, suggesting that releases in the Asia/Pacific region were at least planned.

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mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

It is the format Namco typically used for US releases though, even if the wording isn't standards compliant.

I suspect a lot of these export versions of Namco games were only used in arcades Namco owned or had some kind of partnership with, which might be why even for games we have World/US dumps of they're often considered 'unreleased outside of Japan' (as they were never sold to other arcades)

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I think it's an Asia region release (or possibly a general overseas one) based on this Korean flyer:

https://flyers.arcade-museum.com/videogames/show/2171

The game here is shown in Japanese (no edited on screen text) and the flyer is in English but it has Korean in some places.

Not to mention Bandai Namco has an English product page for the game... https://bandainamco-am.co.jp/am/english/aa/truckkyosokyoku/

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happppp commented Feb 7, 2025

Isn't the warning this thing?
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Taken from a Youtube video for reference

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happppp commented Feb 7, 2025

Soul Calibur USA version with warning screen number 5 from flyer above

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mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

Those are certainly the style of warnings and text Namco used for US releases, Ehrgeiz, Mr Driller, Tekken Tag...

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happppp commented Feb 7, 2025

mslug2 if you set BIOS to USA region (no such warning for Asia region). I'm not aware of Asian region arcade games having the AAMA warning.

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mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

Namco also used it on the US releases of Point Blank 2 and Mr Driller 2.

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mamehaze commented Feb 7, 2025

So yeah, I still think US is most likely.

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FYI i dumped CD of TKK1 and it matches TKK2 CDrom already in mame. So the region on these is only dictated with the flashroms.
Probably worth a note in the driver the CD's match if it's not noted already.

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