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Identify appropriate multi-species datasets #4
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I've taken a bit of a poke around in the Johnson et al. resources (summarized well here in the repo associated with the publication). They compiled the following datasets for their analyses:
There are a few others that come to mind (and have been brought up) that we might consider as well:
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If we're interested in functional relationships, AVONET is a great resources for birds. This contains morphological (and other) measures for nearly all bird species across the world. |
I suppose the question is which of theses datasets are the most relevant to the goals of this project/are the most robust? Are there some taxonomic groups that are 'better'? I would argue that birds are advantageous because they are relatively conspicuous and survey methods are fairly standardized -- maybe this is just my bird-bias though. Birds also have great information for functional traits, though there are some data available for mammals as well. I think we should also keep in mind whether these are closed populations. The strict answer is no for nearly all, but some are going to be more closed than others. Or maybe it doesn't matter because any variation in abundance across time that might be driven by movement across space is still interesting? Thoughts on this? Or do we even have expectations on which taxa/sampling strategies are captured closed vs. not populations? |
I'm looking into the BioTIME datasets more closely now to see what the breakdown is in terms of # of species, sampling type, etc. |
Potentially relevant functional fields in AVONET:
Estimated generation lengths (a nice catch-all metric for 'pace of life') are available for all bird species from Bird et al. 2020. As far as 'functional traits' go, I'd say this is an important one PHYLACINE has data on a number of traits for mammals AmphBIO has data on a number of traits for amphibians TRY has data on a number of traits for plants More trait databases can be found on the Open Traits Network but from my understanding all of the above are relatively well curated (but with various levels of completeness across species/traits). |
Thanks for all this digging @caseyyoungflesh, it is good to get a sense of what datasets we should consider as possibles. Perhaps @GitTFJ can also give some thoughts on which of the datasets that were used in his paper could be most appropriate here? |
Good to see. @shubhi124081 also mentioned a recent paper that inspected axes of variation for birds, which seemed to show that a few specific traits can inform clusters of bird species. I don't remember the exact details, but perhaps she can give that reference here |
Also just saw this: https://twitter.com/thiagotoyoyo/status/1785048029550248071?t=54H3fCW-SknAVoFouA8piA&s=19. Haven't looked carefully yet though |
Hi @caseyyoungflesh great summary. Agree with all of the above. I think the bird monitoring schemes are the best place to start. I am currently trying to setup a forecasting challenge for the European chapter of EFI and we are in the process of trying to compile all of the open (on-request) bird datasets for the challenge. If successful, and data providers approve, we could embed the data in the same pipeline. Another dataset is the waterbird suveys in this paper. Heavily towards protected areas though |
@nicholasjclark @shubhi124081 was that paper in question this one (came to mind since it uses what would become AVONET)? |
There is considerable information (with example code) provided by this preprint and the accompanying Github repo
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