News does not update https://web.dev/feed.xml #976

mogoh · 2020-12-10T13:36:30Z

mogoh
Dec 10, 2020

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Explain the Problem

What problem did you encounter?

The feed from https://web.dev/feed.xml does not get updated.
It get's updated on first adding, but not later on.

Steps to Reproduce

Add https://web.dev/feed.xml
Don't see new articles

System Information

News app version: 14.2.2
Nextcloud version: 19.0.5
Cron type: crontab
PHP version: 7.4.13
Database and version: 10.3.22-MariaDB
Browser and version: Firefox 83
Distribution and version: centos-release-7-9.2009.1.el7.centos.x86_64 3.10.0-1127.19.1.el7.x86_64

Contents of nextcloud/data/nextcloud.log

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Answered by alexdebril

Dec 13, 2020

@Grotax @mogoh I know what's going on, the root cause is a bug in the feed itself. Here's how to observe it:

on first call, without an 'If-modified-since' header or with a value set to 1970/01/01, it works and we get the full feed. But there's a first glitch in the headers: "Last-Modified" is set to "Tue, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:01 GMT".
so we perform a second call with "if-modified-since" set to "Tue, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:01 GMT": we get a 304 "Not Modified" status and an empty body

tests with feed-io

I hacked feed-io in a branch called issue/313 to reproduce the bug and validate my hypothesis. I made two commits, each one triggered a build on Travis.

In this build the feed was just added to th…

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anoymouserver · 2020-12-11T10:05:20Z

anoymouserver
Dec 11, 2020
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I can confirm this in my instance.
I guess that's because the feed is so huge. It currently contains ~220 entries and takes almost 3 seconds to load even in my browser. Maybe the parser just runs into a timeout.

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Grotax · 2020-12-11T19:37:36Z

Grotax
Dec 11, 2020
Maintainer

reading https://web.dev/feed.xml
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+--------------------------------------------------+------------+-----------+---------------------------+---------+------------+-----------+
| URL                                              | Accessible | readSince | Last modified             | # items | unique IDs | Date Flow |
+--------------------------------------------------+------------+-----------+---------------------------+---------+------------+-----------+
| https://web.dev/feed.xml                         | NOT OK     | NOT OK    | 2020-12-11T19:23:28+00:00 | 218     | NOT OK     | NOT OK    |
+--------------------------------------------------+------------+-----------+---------------------------+---------+------------+-----------+

This feed is not up-dateable via feed-io.

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mogoh Dec 12, 2020
Author

Thanks. I have opened an issue at feed-io: alexdebril/feed-io#313

mogoh · 2020-12-12T16:43:41Z

mogoh
Dec 12, 2020
Author

Also on question:
Why has this been moved to discussion?
I mean it is a bug, right?

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alexdebril Dec 13, 2020

No, it's not. I just studied the way the feed works depending on how we interact with it and there's a bug in the feed itself (I know it's crazy knowing it's a blog endorsed by Google). Please wait a bit, I''m preparing a detailed explanation on what's going on.

alexdebril · 2020-12-12T16:55:45Z

alexdebril
Dec 12, 2020

It works on https://feed-io.net which uses an API based on feed-io to parse the feed. Which version of feed-io are you running? Is there any memory limitation that could interrupt the process while parsing the feed?

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alexdebril · 2020-12-12T21:33:17Z

alexdebril
Dec 12, 2020

@Grotax I don't understand: I get the same output with feedio check but feedio read provides a huge output... So for now you can read it but not update it.

I don't think it's about its size or a memory problem. There's something nasty in the feed that upsets feed-io . Maybe something about the headers, I'll have a deeper look at it soon

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alexdebril · 2020-12-12T21:39:36Z

alexdebril
Dec 12, 2020

last-modified: Tue, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:01 GMT

Those date issues will drive me crazy, I want to burn a calendar ...

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alexdebril · 2020-12-13T14:35:16Z

alexdebril
Dec 13, 2020

@Grotax @mogoh I know what's going on, the root cause is a bug in the feed itself. Here's how to observe it:

on first call, without an 'If-modified-since' header or with a value set to 1970/01/01, it works and we get the full feed. But there's a first glitch in the headers: "Last-Modified" is set to "Tue, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:01 GMT".
so we perform a second call with "if-modified-since" set to "Tue, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:01 GMT": we get a 304 "Not Modified" status and an empty body

tests with feed-io

I hacked feed-io in a branch called issue/313 to reproduce the bug and validate my hypothesis. I made two commits, each one triggered a build on Travis.

In this build the feed was just added to the list of feeds to check: https://travis-ci.org/github/alexdebril/feed-io/jobs/749422975
it fails as it was shown earlier.

Here, I removed the 'If-modified-since' header: https://travis-ci.org/github/alexdebril/feed-io/jobs/749423189 (the commit here
it works

So we have several options here:

tell feed-io to not send the header anymore. I don't want this because it would be a waste of bandwidth for fixing just one buggy feed.
change NextCloud's update system to use read instead of readSinceand use the public ID to evict items already stored in database. Again, I think it's a huge waste of resources as it will raise the SQL traffic and maybe introduce other issues. And it's time-consuming to implement I guess
ask Google to fix the feed

I'm 100% in favor of the last solution. feed-io and nextcloud are designed to tolerate some mistakes or oddities (fefe's blog for instance) in order to update as much feeds as it must to make users happy, But here we don't have any solution that could be satisfying for everyone. Also, the root cause being a bug in the way a header is managed, everyone would take benefit of fixing this instead of finding a workaround that is prone to regressions.

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alexdebril · 2020-12-14T10:14:38Z

alexdebril
Dec 14, 2020

I reported the bug to the publisher: GoogleChrome/web.dev#4382

I think it's a duplicate of GoogleChrome/web.dev#3913

I hope it will be fixed soon

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mogoh Dec 14, 2020
Author

I totally did not expect an HTTP-Header problem.
Thank you very much for taking so much time!

Grotax · 2020-12-15T16:26:26Z

Grotax
Dec 15, 2020
Maintainer

Thanks @alexdebril

@mogoh we don't consider not working feeds a bug, 99.9% of the time the feed or the webserver is doing something exotic, feed-io is a very good feed reading lib that has even more improved since we use it and users provide feedback :)

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mogoh Dec 15, 2020
Author

yes.
understandable.
This issue can be closed, if you ask me.

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