Планы на счет FirmaCiv, AntiqueAtlass и XaerosMinimap / Ideas for FirmaCiv, AntiqueAtlas and XaerosMinimap

[Pyritie]

При открытии письменности (бумага, возможно графит?) и 3 предметов из FirmaCiv (отвечающих за координаты) игра будет открывать доступ к Antique Atlas карте, по которой можно устанавливать метки и тд.

После открытия электричества, допустим LV, можно будет получить доступ к обыкновенной карте из Xaeros Map.

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When you open writing (paper, maybe graphite?) and 3 items from FirmaCiv (responsible for coordinates), the game will give you access to the Antique Atlas Map, where you can set markers etc.

After unlocking electricity, let's say LV, it will be possible to access a regular map from Xaeros Map.

[Zeropol]

I love this proposition.
I had trouble that the modpack came with a map+minimap indeed, because it defeats the purpose of early exploration feeling. And it rendered the coordinate-related Firmalife objects useless.
I had good time getting lost, and building reference points here and there. I had ingame notes.

Isolating the antique map behind the paper, graphite and 3 Firmalife objects seems legitimate.

I don't know if you're suggesting that an LV quest unlocks the Xaeros map, or that a certain LV item is required in the hotbar to see the Xaeros map (I find that having the item, with enough power, is more in keeping with the modpack).

[Pyritie]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/astages

[Waza46]

Love this idea as well! I feel like the actual minimap should have a more realistic unlock method, like deploying satellites for a GPS system, which could be accessed before going to the moon.

[TDumpling]

Можно отключить карту Xaero с помощью эффектов xaeroworldmap:no_world_map и xaerominimap:no_minimap — добавлять эти эффекты при каждом возрождении до выполнения условия. При этом нужно продумать способ скрыть иконки эффектов, поскольку они достаточно раздражают.
В качестве механики разблокировки предлагаю ввести многоблочные навигационные вышки (LV уровень и немного энергии для поддержания работы карты). После запуска первой ракеты/спутника вышку можно убрать.
До разблокировки Xaero в качестве карты можно использовать мод Joy of Painting (https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/joy-of-painting). Он позволит игроку вручную рисовать карту, используя навигационные приборы из firma:civilization, но при этом не будет показывать положение игрока на ней.

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You can disable the Xaero map using the effects xaeroworldmap:no_world_map and xaerominimap:no_minimap — apply these effects upon every respawn until the condition is met. At the same time, you’ll need to figure out a way to hide the effect icons, as they are quite annoying.
As an unlocking mechanic, I suggest introducing multi-block navigation towers (LV tier and a bit of energy to keep the map running). After launching the first rocket/satellite, the tower can be removed.
Before unlocking Xaero, you can use the Joy of Painting mod (https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/joy-of-painting) as a map. It will allow the player to manually draw a map using navigation instruments from firma:civilization, but it will not show the player’s position on it.

[Pyritie]

Reposting from #1630:

Internally we've decided that this would be too much for the "normal" version of TFG, as it just adds a lot of extra tedium for no reason and we've already balanced a few things around being able to use your minimap. Pretty much every modpack comes with some sort of map mod like xaeros, and I imagine many people would just add one back themselves if we wanted to gate it like this.

There's also the question of what do you make the gate for unlocking xaeros? Pillaring up really high so you can see your surroundings? A dedicated stone age player could do that. Making an airship and flying around? You can get one as early as wrought iron. All the way until HV for space? That's way too late imo.

I've only seen like, maybe 2 or 3 people want to play the way you describe, and you're free to customize the pack as you'd like, so I don't see a need to include these mods by default.

Maybe some day for a TFG hard mode or something.

[ssrz2cpzhg-bit]

add the valkyrian skies mod

[ssrz2cpzhg-bit]

Add a function for the XaerosMinimap mod so that if the player is below 100 altitude, only what is in front of the player is generated on the map, and if the player is above 100 altitude, everything around the player is loaded, but if the player is in a mountain, nothing is loaded. Please add the valkyrian skies mod