20150805_GOP_cleveland.tsv

1	KELLY	Welcome to the first debate night of the 2016 presidential campaign, live from Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio.	0
2	KELLY	I'm Megyn Kelly...	0
3	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
4	KELLY	... along with my co-moderators, Brett Baier and Chris Wallace.	0
5	KELLY	Tonight...	0
6	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
7	KELLY	Nice.	0
8	KELLY	Tonight, thousands of people here in the Q, along with millions of voters at home will get their very first chance to see the candidates face off in a debate, answering the questions you want answered.	0
9	BAIER	Less than a year from now, in this very arena, one of these 10 candidates or one of the seven on the previous debate tonight will accept the Republican party's nomination.	0
10	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
11	BAIER	Tonight's candidates were selected based on an average of five national polls.	0
12	BAIER	Just a few hours ago, you heard from the candidates ranked 11th through 17.	0
13	BAIER	And now, the prime-time event, the top 10.	0
14	WALLACE	Also of note, Fox News is partnering for tonight's debate with Facebook.	0
15	WALLACE	For the past several weeks, we've been asking you for questions for the candidates on Facebook.	0
16	WALLACE	Nearly 6 million of you, 6 million, viewed the debate videos on our site, and more than 40,000 of you submitted questions: some of which you will hear us asking the candidates tonight.	0
17	KELLY	As for the candidates who will be answering those questions?	0
18	KELLY	Here they are.	0
19	KELLY	Positioned on the stage by how they stand in the polls, in the center of the stage tonight, businessman Donald Trump.	0
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21	KELLY	Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush.	0
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23	KELLY	Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker.	0
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25	KELLY	Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.	0
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27	BAIER	Neurosurgeon, Dr. Ben Carson.	0
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29	BAIER	Texas Senator Ted Cruz.	0
30	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
31	BAIER	Florida Senator Marco Rubio.	0
32	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
33	WALLACE	Kentucky Senator Rand Paul.	0
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35	WALLACE	New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.	0
36	WALLACE	[	0
37	WALLACE	applause ] And your very own governor of Ohio...	0
38	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
39	WALLACE	... John Kasich.	0
40	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
41	WALLACE	Brett -- Brett, I think you would call that a home field advantage.	0
42	BAIER	It might be.	0
43	BAIER	It might be.	0
44	BAIER	We'll see.	0
45	BAIER	Is this in the rules?	0
46	BAIER	An objection's coming.	0
47	BAIER	It might be.	0
48	BAIER	The rules for tonight are simple.	0
49	BAIER	One minute for answers, 30 seconds for follow-ups.	0
50	BAIER	And if a candidate runs over, you'll hear this.	0
51	BAIER	Pleasant, no?	0
52	BAIER	We also have a big crowd here with us tonight in the home of the Cavaliers, as I mentioned.	0
53	BAIER	And while we expect them...	0
54	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
55	BAIER	... we expect them to be enthusiastic, as you heard, we don't want to take anything away from the valuable time for the candidate.	0
56	BAIER	So, we're looking for somewhere between a reaction to a LeBron James dunk and the Cleveland Public Library across the street.	0
57	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
58	BAIER	Somewhere there, we'll find a balance tonight.	0
59	BAIER	Without further ado, let's begin.	0
60	BAIER	Gentlemen, we know how much you love hand-raising questions.	0
61	BAIER	So we promise, this is the only one tonight: the only one.	0
62	BAIER	Is there anyone on stage, and can I see hands, who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the Republican party and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person.	0
63	BAIER	Again, we're looking for you to raise your hand now -- raise your hand now if you won't make that pledge tonight.	0
64	BAIER	Mr. Trump.	0
65	SYSTEM	[ booing ]	0
66	BAIER	Mr. Trump to be clear, you're standing on a Republican primary debate stage.	0
67	TRUMP	I fully understand.	0
68	BAIER	The place where the RNC will give the nominee the nod.	0
69	TRUMP	I fully understand.	0
70	BAIER	And that experts say an independent run would almost certainly hand the race over to Democrats and likely another Clinton.	0
71	BAIER	You can't say tonight that you can make that pledge?	0
72	TRUMP	I cannot say.	0
73	TRUMP	I have to respect the person that, if it's not me, the person that wins, if I do win, and I'm leading by quite a bit, that's what I want to do.	0
74	TRUMP	I can totally make that pledge.	0
75	TRUMP	If I'm the nominee, I will pledge I will not run as an independent.	0
76	TRUMP	But -- and I am discussing it with everybody, but I'm, you know, talking about a lot of leverage.	0
77	TRUMP	We want to win, and we will win.	0
78	TRUMP	But I want to win as the Republican.	0
79	TRUMP	I want to run as the Republican nominee.	0
80	BAIER	So tonight, you can't say if another one of these...	0
81	PAUL	This is what's wrong!	0
82	BAIER	OK.	0
83	PAUL	I mean, this is what's wrong.	0
84	PAUL	He buys and sells politicians of all stripes, he's already...	0
85	BAIER	Dr. Paul.	0
86	PAUL	Hey, look, look!	0
87	PAUL	He's already hedging his bet on the Clintons, OK?	0
88	PAUL	So if he doesn't run as a Republican, maybe he supports Clinton, or maybe he runs as an independent...	0
89	BAIER	OK.	0
90	PAUL	...but I'd say that he's already hedging his bets because he's used to buying politicians.	0
91	TRUMP	Well, I've given him plenty of money.	0
92	BAIER	Just to be clear, you can't make a -- we're gonna -- we're going to move on.	0
93	BAIER	You're not gonna make the pledge tonight?	0
94	TRUMP	I will not make the pledge at this time.	0
95	BAIER	OK. Alright.	0
96	SYSTEM	[ laughter and boing ]	0
97	KELLY	Gentlemen, our first round of questions is on the subject of electability in the general election, and we start tonight with you, Dr. Carson.	0
98	KELLY	You are a successful neurosurgeon, but you admit that you have had to study up on foreign policy, saying there's a lot to learn.	0
99	KELLY	Your critics say that your inexperience shows.	0
100	KELLY	You've suggested that the Baltic States are not a part of NATO, just months ago you were unfamiliar with the major political parties and government in Israel, and domestically, you thought Alan Greenspan had been treasury secretary instead of federal reserve chair.	0
101	KELLY	Aren't these basic mistakes, and don't they raise legitimate questions about whether you are ready to be president?	0
102	CARSON	Well, I could take issue with -- with all of those things, but we don't have time.	0
103	CARSON	But I will say, we have a debate here tonight, and we will have an opportunity to explore those areas, and I'm looking very much forward to demonstrating that, in fact, the thing that is probably most important is having a brain, and to be able to figure things out and learn things very rapidly.	0
104	CARSON	So, you know, experience comes from a large number of different arenas, and America became a great nation early on not because it was flooded with politicians, but because it was flooded with people who understood the value of personal responsibility, hard work, creativity, innovation, and that's what will get us on the right track now, as well.	0
105	WALLACE	Senator Rubio, when Jeb Bush announced his candidacy for presidency, he said this: "There's no passing off responsibility when you're a governor, no blending into the legislative crowd."	0
106	WALLACE	Could you please address Governor Bush across the stage here, and explain to him why you, someone who has never held executive office, are better prepared to be president than he is, a man who you say did a great job running your state of Florida for eight years.	0
107	RUBIO	Well, thank you for the question, Chris, and it's great to be here tonight.	0
108	RUBIO	Let me begin by saying this: I'm not new to the political process; I was making a contribution as the speaker of the third largest and most diverse state in the country well before I even got into the Senate.	0
109	RUBIO	I would add to that that this election cannot be a resume competition.	0
110	RUBIO	It's important to be qualified, but if this election is a resume competition, then Hillary Clinton's gonna be the next president, because she's been in office and in government longer than anybody else running here tonight.	0
111	RUBIO	Here's what this election better be about: This election better be about the future, not the past.	0
112	RUBIO	It better be about the issues our nation and the world is facing today, not simply the issues we once faced.	0
113	RUBIO	This country is facing an economy that has been radically transformed.	0
114	RUBIO	You know, the largest retailer in the country and the world today, Amazon, doesn't even own a single store?	0
115	RUBIO	And these changes have been disruptive.	0
116	RUBIO	They have changed people's lives.	0
117	RUBIO	The jobs that once sustained our middle class, they either don't pay enough or they are gone, and we need someone that understands that as our nominee.	0
118	RUBIO	If I'm our nominee, how is Hillary Clinton gonna lecture me about living paycheck to paycheck?	0
119	RUBIO	I was raised paycheck to paycheck.	0
120	RUBIO	How is she -- how is she gonna lecture me -- how is she gonna lecture me about student loans?	0
121	RUBIO	I owed over $100,000 just four years ago.	0
122	RUBIO	If I'm our nominee, we will be the party of the future.	0
123	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
124	BAIER	Governor Bush, you have insisted that you're your own man.	0
125	BAIER	You say you have a life experience uniquely your own.	0
126	BAIER	Not your father's, not your brother's.	0
127	BAIER	But there are several opponents on this stage who get big- applause lines in early voting states with this line: quote, "the last thing the country needs is another Bush in the Oval Office."	0
128	BAIER	So do you understand the real concern in this country about dynastic politics?	0
129	BUSH	Absolutely, I do, and I'm gonna run hard, run with heart, and run to win.	0
130	BUSH	I'm gonna have to earn this.	0
131	BUSH	Maybe the barrier -- the bar's even higher for me.	0
132	BUSH	That's fine.	0
133	BUSH	I've got a record in Florida.	0
134	BUSH	I'm proud of my dad, and I'm certainly proud of my brother.	0
135	BUSH	In Florida, they called me Jeb, because I earned it.	0
136	BUSH	I cut taxes every year, totaling $19 billion.	0
137	BUSH	We were -- we had -- we balanced every budget.	0
138	BUSH	We went from $1 billion of reserves to $9 billion of reserves.	0
139	BUSH	We were one of two states that went to AAA bond rating.	0
140	BUSH	They keep -- they called me Veto Corleone.	0
141	BUSH	Because I vetoed 2,500 separate line-items in the budget.	0
142	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
143	BUSH	I am my own man.	0
144	BUSH	I governed as a conservative, and I govern effectively.	0
145	BUSH	And the net effect was, during my eight years, 1.3 million jobs were created.	0
146	BUSH	We left the state better off because I applied conservative principles in a purple state the right way, and people rose up.	0
147	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
148	KELLY	Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter.	0
149	KELLY	However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women.	0
150	KELLY	You've called women you don't like "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals."	0
151	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
152	KELLY	Your Twitter account...	0
153	TRUMP	Only Rosie O'Donnell.	0
154	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
155	KELLY	No, it wasn't.	0
156	KELLY	[	0
157	KELLY	applause ] Your Twitter account...	0
158	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
159	TRUMP	Thank you.	0
160	KELLY	For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O'Donnell.	0
161	TRUMP	Yes, I'm sure it was.	0
162	KELLY	Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women's looks.	0
163	KELLY	You once told a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees.	0
164	KELLY	Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president, and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who was likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?	0
165	TRUMP	I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct.	0
166	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
167	TRUMP	I've been challenged by so many people, and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness.	0
168	TRUMP	And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either.	0
169	TRUMP	This country is in big trouble.	0
170	TRUMP	We don't win anymore.	0
171	TRUMP	We lose to China.	0
172	TRUMP	We lose to Mexico both in trade and at the border.	0
173	TRUMP	We lose to everybody.	0
174	TRUMP	And frankly, what I say, and oftentimes it's fun, it's kidding.	0
175	TRUMP	We have a good time.	0
176	TRUMP	What I say is what I say.	0
177	TRUMP	And honestly Megyn, if you don't like it, I'm sorry.	0
178	TRUMP	I've been very nice to you, although I could probably maybe not be, based on the way you have treated me.	0
179	TRUMP	But I wouldn't do that.	0
180	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
181	TRUMP	But you know what, we -- we need strength, we need energy, we need quickness and we need brain in this country to turn it around.	0
182	TRUMP	That, I can tell you right now.	0
183	WALLACE	Senator Cruz, your colleague, Senator Paul, right there next to you, said a few months ago he agrees with you on a number of issues, but he says you do nothing to grow the party.	0
184	WALLACE	He says you feed red meat to the base, but you don't reach out to minorities.	0
185	WALLACE	You have a toxic relationship with GOP leaders in Congress.	0
186	WALLACE	You even called the Republican Senate Leader Mitch McConnell a liar recently.	0
187	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
188	WALLACE	How can you win in 2016 when you're such a divisive figure?	0
189	CRUZ	Chris, I believe the American people are looking for someone to speak the truth.	0
190	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
191	CRUZ	If you're looking for someone to go to Washington, to go along to get along, to get -- to agree with the career politicians in both parties who get in bed with the lobbyists and special interests, then I ain't your guy.	0
192	CRUZ	There is a reason...	0
193	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
194	CRUZ	.... that we have $18 trillion in debt.	0
195	CRUZ	Because as conservatives, as Republicans, we keep winning elections.	0
196	CRUZ	We got a Republican House, we've got a Republican Senate, and we don't have leaders who honor their commitments.	0
197	CRUZ	I will always tell the truth and do what I said I would do.	0
198	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
199	BAIER	Governor Christie, you're not exactly the darling of conservatives.	0
200	BAIER	You tout your record as a Republican governor in a blue state.	0
201	BAIER	On Facebook, the most people talking about you, not surprisingly, come from your state of New Jersey, and one of the top issues they are talking about is the economy.	0
202	BAIER	This -- this may be why.	0
203	BAIER	Under your watch, New Jersey has undergone nine credit rating downgrades.	0
204	BAIER	The state's 44th in private sector growth.	0
205	BAIER	You face an employee pension crisis and the Garden State has the third highest foreclosure rate in the country.	0
206	BAIER	So why should voters believe that your management of the country's finances would be any different?	0
207	CHRISTIE	If you think it's bad now, you should've seen it when I got there.	0
208	SYSTEM	[ laught and applause ]	0
209	CHRISTIE	The fact is -- the fact is, in the eight years before I became governor, taxes and fees were raised at the state level 115 times.	0
210	CHRISTIE	In the eight years before I became governor, spending was increased 56 percent.	0
211	CHRISTIE	And in the eight years before I become governor, taxes and fees were raised at the state level 115 times.	0
212	CHRISTIE	In the eight years before I became Governor, spending was increased 56 percent, and in the eight years before I became governor, there was zero net private sector job growth in New Jersey.	0
213	CHRISTIE	Zero.	0
214	CHRISTIE	For eight years.	0
215	CHRISTIE	So, what did we do?	0
216	CHRISTIE	We came in, we balanced an $11 billion deficit on a $29 billion budget by cutting over 800 programs in the state budget.	0
217	CHRISTIE	We brought the budget into balance with no tax increases.	0
218	CHRISTIE	In fact, we vetoed five income tax increases during my time as governor.	0
219	CHRISTIE	We cut business taxes $2.3 billion, and we cut regulation by one-third of what my predecessor put in place.	0
220	CHRISTIE	And, what's happened since?	0
221	CHRISTIE	A hundred ninety-two thousand private sector jobs in the five and a half years I've been governor.	0
222	CHRISTIE	We have a lot of work to do in New Jersey, but I am darn proud we've brought our state back.	0
223	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
224	KELLY	Governor Walker, you've consistently said that you want to make abortion illegal even in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.	0
225	KELLY	You recently signed an abortion law in Wisconsin that does have an exception for the mother's life, but you're on the record as having objected to it.	0
226	KELLY	Would you really let a mother die rather than have an abortion, and with 83 percent of the American public in favor of a life exception, are you too out of the mainstream on this issue to win the general election?	0
227	WALKER	Well, I'm pro-life, I've always been pro-life, and I've got a position that I think is consistent with many Americans out there in that...	0
228	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
229	WALKER	...in that I believe that that is an unborn child that's in need of protection out there, and I've said many a time that that unborn child can be protected, and there are many other alternatives that can also protect the life of that mother.	0
230	WALKER	That's been consistently proven.	0
231	WALKER	Unlike Hillary Clinton, who has a radical position in terms of support for Planned Parenthood, I defunded Planned Parenthood more than four years ago, long before any of these videos came out...	0
232	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
233	WALKER	...I've got a position that's in line with everyday America.	0
234	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
235	WALLACE	Governor Huckabee, like Governor Walker, you have staked out strong positions on social issues.	0
236	WALLACE	You favor a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage.	0
237	WALLACE	You favor a constitutional amendment banning abortions, except for the life of the mother.	0
238	WALLACE	Millions of people in this country agree with you, but according to the polls, and again this an electability question, according to the polls, more people don't, so how do you persuade enough Independents and Democrats to get elected in 2016?	0
239	HUCKABEE	Chris, I disagree with the idea that the real issue is a constitutional amendment.	0
240	HUCKABEE	That's a long and difficult process.	0
241	HUCKABEE	I've actually taken the position that's bolder than that.	0
242	HUCKABEE	A lot of people are talking about defunding planned parenthood, as if that's a huge game changer.	0
243	HUCKABEE	I think it's time to do something even more bold.	0
244	HUCKABEE	I think the next president ought to invoke the Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the constitution now that we clearly know that that baby inside the mother's womb is a person at the moment of conception.	0
245	HUCKABEE	The reason we know that it is is because of the DNA schedule that we now have clear scientific evidence on.	0
246	HUCKABEE	And, this notion that we just continue to ignore the personhood of the individual is a violation of that unborn child's Fifth and 14th Amendment rights for due process and equal protection under the law.	0
247	HUCKABEE	It's time that we recognize the Supreme Court is not the Supreme Being, and we change the policy to be pro-life and protect children instead of rip up their body parts and sell them like they're parts to a Buick.	0
248	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
249	BAIER	Senator Paul, you recently blamed the rise of ISIS on Republican hawks.	0
250	BAIER	You later said that that statement, you could have said it better.	0
251	BAIER	But, the statement went on, and you said, quote, "Everything they've talked about in foreign policy, they've been wrong for the last 20 years."	0
252	BAIER	Why are you so quick to blame your own party?	0
253	PAUL	First of all, only ISIS is responsible for the terrorism.	0
254	PAUL	Only ISIS is responsible for the depravity.	0
255	PAUL	But, we do have to examine, how are we going to defeat ISIS?	0
256	PAUL	I've got a proposal.	0
257	PAUL	I'm the leading voice in America for not arming the allies of ISIS.	0
258	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
259	PAUL	I've been fighting amidst a lot of opposition from both Hillary Clinton, as well as some Republicans who wanted to send arms to the allies of ISIS.	0
260	PAUL	ISIS rides around in a billion dollars worth of U.S. Humvees.	0
261	PAUL	It's a disgrace.	0
262	PAUL	We've got to stop -- we shouldn't fund our enemies, for goodness sakes.	0
263	PAUL	So, we didn't create ISIS -- ISIS created themselves, but we will stop them, and one of the ways we stop them is by not funding them, and not arming them.	0
264	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
265	KELLY	Governor Kasich, You chose to expand Medicaid in your state, unlike several other governors on this stage tonight, and it is already over budget by some estimates costing taxpayers an additional $1.4 billion in just the first 18 months.	0
266	KELLY	You defended your Medicaid expansion by invoking God, saying to skeptics that when they arrive in heaven, Saint Peter isn't going to ask them how small they've kept government, but what they have done for the poor.	0
267	KELLY	Why should Republican voters, who generally want to shrink government, believe that you won't use your Saint Peter rationale to expand every government program?	0
268	KASICH	Well, first of all...	0
269	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
270	KASICH	...	0
271	KASICH	first of all, Megyn, you should know that -- that President Reagan expanded Medicaid three or four times.	0
272	KASICH	Secondly, I had an opportunity to bring resources back to Ohio to do what?	0
273	KASICH	To treat the mentally ill.	0
274	KASICH	Ten thousand of them sit in our prisons.	0
275	KASICH	It costs $22,500 a year...	0
276	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
277	KASICH	...	0
278	KASICH	to keep them in prison.	0
279	KASICH	I'd rather get them their medication so they could lead a decent life.	0
280	KASICH	Secondly, we are rehabbing the drug-addicted.	0
281	KASICH	Eighty percent of the people in our prisons have addictions or problems.	0
282	KASICH	We now treat them in the prisons, release them in the community and the recidivism rate is 10 percent and everybody across this country knows that the tsunami of drugs is -- is threatening their very families.	0
283	KASICH	So we're treating them and getting them on their feet.	0
284	KASICH	And, finally, the working poor, instead of them having come into the emergency rooms where it costs more, where they're sicker and we end up paying, we brought a program in here to make sure that people could get on their feet.	0
285	KASICH	And do you know what?	0
286	KASICH	Everybody has a right to their God-given purpose.	0
287	KASICH	And finally, our Medicaid is growing at one of the lowest rates in the country.	0
288	KASICH	And, finally, we went from $8 billion in the hole to $2 billion in the black.	0
289	KASICH	We've cut $5 billion in taxes...	0
290	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
291	KASICH	...and we've grown 350,000 jobs.	0
292	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
293	WALLACE	Gentlemen, we're turning to a new subject that all of you have been talking about and some of you have been disagreeing about, and that is the issue of immigration.	0
294	WALLACE	Governor Bush, you released a new plan this week on illegal immigration focusing on enforcement, which some suggest is your effort to show that you're not soft on that issue.	0
295	WALLACE	I want to ask you about a statement that you made last year about illegal immigrants.	0
296	WALLACE	And here's what you said.	0
297	WALLACE	They broke the law, but it's not a felony, it's an act of love.	0
298	WALLACE	It's an act of commitment to your family.	0
299	WALLACE	Do you stand by that statement and do you stand by your support for earned legal status?	0
300	BUSH	I do.	0
301	BUSH	I believe that the great majority of people coming here illegally have no other option.	0
302	BUSH	They want to provide for their family.	0
303	BUSH	But we need to control our border.	0
304	BUSH	It's not -- it's our responsibility to pick and choose who comes in.	0
305	BUSH	So I -- I've written a book about this and yet this week, I did come up with a comprehensive strategy that -- that really mirrored what we said in the book, which is that we need to deal with E-Verify, we need to deal with people that come with a legal visa and overstay.	0
306	BUSH	We need to be much more strategic on how we deal with border enforcement, border security.	0
307	BUSH	We need to eliminate the sanctuary cities in this country.	0
308	BUSH	It is ridiculous and tragic...	0
309	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
310	BUSH	...that people are dying because of the fact that -- that local governments are not following the federal law.	0
311	BUSH	There's much to do.	0
312	BUSH	And I think rather than talking about this as a wedge issue, which Barack Obama has done now for six long years, the next president -- and I hope to be that president -- will fix this once and for all so that we can turn this into a driver for high sustained economic growth.	0
313	BUSH	And there should be a path to earned legal status...	0
314	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
315	BUSH	...	0
316	BUSH	for those that are here.	0
317	BUSH	Not -- not amnesty, earned legal status, which means you pay a fine and do many things over an extended period of time.	0
318	WALLACE	Thank you, sir.	0
319	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
320	WALLACE	Mr. Trump, it has not escaped anybody's notice that you say that the Mexican government, the Mexican government is sending criminals -- rapists, drug dealers, across the border.	0
321	WALLACE	Governor Bush has called those remarks, quote, "extraordinarily ugly."	0
322	WALLACE	I'd like you -- you're right next to him -- tell us -- talk to him directly and say how you respond to that and -- and you have repeatedly said that you have evidence that the Mexican government is doing this, but you have evidence you have refused or declined to share.	0
323	WALLACE	Why not use this first Republican presidential debate to share your proof with the American people?	0
324	TRUMP	So, if it weren't for me, you wouldn't even be talking about illegal immigration, Chris.	0
325	TRUMP	You wouldn't even be talking about it.	0
326	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
327	TRUMP	This was not a subject that was on anybody's mind until I brought it up at my announcement.	0
328	TRUMP	And I said, Mexico is sending.	0
329	TRUMP	Except the reporters, because they're a very dishonest lot, generally speaking, in the world of politics, they didn't cover my statement the way I said it.	0
330	TRUMP	The fact is, since then, many killings ,murders, crime, drugs pouring across the border, are money going out and the drugs coming in.	0
331	TRUMP	And I said we need to build a wall, and it has to be built quickly.	0
332	TRUMP	And I don't mind having a big beautiful door in that wall so that people can come into this country legally.	0
333	TRUMP	But we need, Jeb, to build a wall, we need to keep illegals out.	0
334	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
335	WALLACE	Mr. Trump, I'll give you 30 seconds -- I'll give you 30 seconds to answer my question, which was, what evidence do you have, specific evidence that the Mexican government is sending criminals across the border?	0
336	WALLACE	Thirty seconds.	0
337	TRUMP	Border Patrol, I was at the border last week.	0
338	TRUMP	Border Patrol, people that I deal with, that I talk to, they say this is what's happening.	0
339	TRUMP	Because our leaders are stupid.	0
340	TRUMP	Our politicians are stupid.	0
341	TRUMP	And the Mexican government is much smarter, much sharper, much more cunning.	0
342	TRUMP	And they send the bad ones over because they don't want to pay for them.	0
343	TRUMP	They don't want to take care of them.	0
344	TRUMP	Why should they when the stupid leaders of the United States will do it for them?	0
345	TRUMP	And that's what is happening whether you like it or not.	0
346	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
347	WALLACE	All right.	0
348	WALLACE	Obviously there's a lot more to talk about this.	0
349	WALLACE	We're going to have more questions for the candidates on illegal immigration, plus other key topics including your questions on Facebook.	0
350	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
351	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	What will be your plan on making immigration easier for those that want to do it legally?	0
352	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	What specific steps would you take to contain the growth of ISIS?	0
353	UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE	I'd like to know what the candidates are going to do so that I feel safe in my own country again.	0
354	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
355	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
356	WALLACE	Welcome back to FOX News/Facebook Republican Debate Night.	0
357	WALLACE	We're going to continue the questions now on illegal immigration.	0
358	WALLACE	We kind of ended with a cliffhanger there.	0
359	WALLACE	So let's continue the conversation.	0
360	WALLACE	Governor Kasich, I know you don't like to talk about Donald Trump.	0
361	WALLACE	But I do want to ask you about the merit of what he just said.	0
362	WALLACE	When you say that the American government is stupid, that the Mexican government is sending criminals, that we're being bamboozled, is that an adequate response to the question of illegal immigration?	0
363	KASICH	Chris, first of all, I was just saying to Chris Christie, they say we're outspoken, we need to take lessons from Donald Trump if we're really going to learn it.	0
364	KASICH	Here is the thing about Donald Trump.	0
365	KASICH	Donald Trump is hitting a nerve in this country.	0
366	KASICH	He is.	0
367	KASICH	He's hitting a nerve.	0
368	KASICH	People are frustrated.	0
369	KASICH	They're fed up.	0
370	KASICH	They don't think the government is working for them.	0
371	KASICH	And for people who want to just tune him out, they're making a mistake.	0
372	KASICH	Now, he's got his solutions.	0
373	KASICH	Some of us have other solutions.	0
374	KASICH	You know, look, I balanced the federal budget as one of the chief architects when I was in Washington.	0
375	KASICH	Hasn't been done since.	0
376	KASICH	I was a military reformer.	0
377	KASICH	I took the state of Ohio from an $8 billion hole and a 350,000 job loss to a $2 billion surplus and a gain of 350,000 jobs.	0
378	WALLACE	Respectfully, can we talk about illegal immigration?	0
379	KASICH	But the point is that we all have solutions.	0
380	KASICH	Mr. Trump is touching a nerve because people want the wall to be built.	0
381	KASICH	They want to see an end to illegal immigration.	0
382	KASICH	They want to see it, and we all do.	0
383	KASICH	But we all have different ways of getting there.	0
384	KASICH	And you're going to hear from all of us tonight about what our ideas are.	0
385	WALLACE	All right, well, Senator Rubio, let me see if I can do better with you.	0
386	WALLACE	Is it as simple as our leaders are stupid, their leaders are smart, and all of these illegals coming over are criminals?	0
387	RUBIO	Let me set the record straight on a couple of things.	0
388	RUBIO	The first is, the evidence is now clear that the majority of people coming across the border are not from Mexico.	0
389	RUBIO	They're coming from Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras.	0
390	RUBIO	Those countries are the source of the people that are now coming in its majority.	0
391	RUBIO	I also believe we need a fence.	0
392	RUBIO	The problem is if El Chapo builds a tunnel under the fence, we have to be able to deal with that too.	0
393	RUBIO	And that's why you need an e-verify system and you need an entry-exit tracking system and all sorts of other things to prevent illegal immigration.	0
394	RUBIO	But I agree with what Governor Kasich just said.	0
395	RUBIO	People are frustrated.	0
396	RUBIO	This is the most generous country in the world when it comes to immigration.	0
397	RUBIO	There are a million people a year who legally immigrate to the United States, and people feel like we're being taken advantage of.	0
398	RUBIO	We feel like despite our generosity, we're being taken advantage of.	0
399	RUBIO	And let me tell you who never gets talked about in these debates.	0
400	RUBIO	The people that call my office, who have been waiting for 15 years to come to the United States.	0
401	RUBIO	And they've paid their fees, and they hired a lawyer, and they can't get in.	0
402	RUBIO	And they're wondering, maybe they should come illegally.	0
403	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
404	RUBIO	And so these are important issues, and we should address it.	0
405	RUBIO	It's a serious problem that needs to be addressed, and otherwise we're going to keep talking about this for the next 30 years, like we have for the last 30 years.	0
406	WALLACE	Governor Walker.	0
407	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
408	WALLACE	Governor Walker, from 2002 until as recently as 2013, just two years ago, you supported comprehensive immigration reform, including a path to citizenship.	0
409	WALLACE	Now you say that was a quick reaction to something you hadn't really thought about, and that you've changed your mind.	0
410	WALLACE	Other than politics, could you explain why in the last two years you've changed your position on a path to citizenship, and are there other past positions that we shouldn't hold you to?	0
411	WALKER	Chris, I actually said that on your show earlier this year.	0
412	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
413	WALKER	I acknowledged that.	0
414	WALKER	I said I actually listened to the American people.	0
415	WALKER	And I think people across America want a leader who's actually going to listen to them.	0
416	WALKER	I talked to border state governors and other elected officials.	0
417	WALKER	I look at how this president, particularly through last November, messed up the immigration system in this country.	0
418	WALKER	Most importantly, I listened to the people of America.	0
419	WALKER	I believe we need to secure the border.	0
420	WALKER	I've been to the border with Governor Abbott in Texas and others, seeing the problems that they have there.	0
421	WALKER	There is international criminal organizations penetrating our southern based borders, and we need to do something about it.	0
422	WALKER	Secure the border, enforce the law, no amnesty, and go forward with the legal immigration system that gives priority to American working families and wages.	0
423	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
424	WALLACE	Senator Cruz, some 1,400 people submitted questions on this very hot topic of illegal immigration on Facebook, and a number of them were about the murder of Kate Steinle in San Francisco, allegedly shot down by an illegal.	0
425	WALLACE	Doug Bettencourt sent this question, "will you support Kate Steinle's Law," which would impose a mandatory five-year prison term for an illegal who is deported and then returns to this country?	0
426	WALLACE	And will you defund sanctuary cities for violating federal law?	0
427	CRUZ	Chris, absolutely yes.	0
428	CRUZ	And not only will I support it...	0
429	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
430	CRUZ	...I have authored Kate's law in the United States Senate and filed that legislation.	0
431	CRUZ	I tried to get the Senate to vote to pass Kate's law on the floor of the Senate just one week ago, and the leader of our own party blocked a vote on Kate's law.	0
432	CRUZ	You know, there was reference made to our leaders being stupid.	0
433	CRUZ	It's not a question of stupidity.	0
434	CRUZ	It's that they don't want to enforce the immigration laws.	0
435	CRUZ	That there are far too many in the Washington cartel that support amnesty.	0
436	CRUZ	President Obama has talked about fundamentally transforming this country.	0
437	CRUZ	There's 7 billion people across the face of the globe, many of whom want to come to this country.	0
438	CRUZ	If they come legally, great.	0
439	CRUZ	But if they come illegally and they get amnesty, that is how we fundamentally change this country, and it really is striking.	0
440	CRUZ	A majority of the candidates on this stage have supported amnesty.	0
441	CRUZ	I have never supported amnesty, and I led the fight against Chuck Schumer's gang of eight amnesty legislation in the Senate.	0
442	KELLY	Alright, gentlemen, we're gonna switch topics now and talk a bit about terror and national security.	0
443	KELLY	Governor Christie.	0
444	KELLY	You've said that Senator Paul's opposition to the NSA's collection of phone records has made the United States weaker and more vulnerable, even going so far as to say that he should be called before Congress to answer for it if we should be hit by another terrorist attack.	0
445	KELLY	Do you really believe you can assign blame to Senator Paul just for opposing the bulk collection of people's phone records in the event of a terrorist attack?	0
446	CHRISTIE	Yes, I do.	0
447	CHRISTIE	And I'll tell you why: because I'm the only person on this stage who's actually filed applications under the Patriot Act, who has gone before the federal -- the Foreign Intelligence Service court, who has prosecuted and investigated and jailed terrorists in this country after September 11th.	0
448	CHRISTIE	I was appointed U.S. attorney by President Bush on September 10th, 2001, and the world changed enormously the next day, and that happened in my state.	0
449	CHRISTIE	This is not theoretical to me.	0
450	CHRISTIE	I went to the funerals.	0
451	CHRISTIE	We lost friends of ours in the Trade Center that day.	0
452	CHRISTIE	My own wife was two blocks from the Trade Center that day, at her office, having gone through it that morning.	0
453	CHRISTIE	When you actually have to be responsible for doing this, you can do it, and we did it, for seven years in my office, respecting civil liberties and protecting the homeland.	0
454	CHRISTIE	And I will make no apologies, ever, for protecting the lives and the safety of the American people.	0
455	CHRISTIE	We have to give more tools to our folks to be able to do that, not fewer, and then trust those people and oversee them to do it the right way.	0
456	CHRISTIE	As president, that is exactly what I'll do.	0
457	PAUL	Megyn, may I respond?	0
458	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
459	PAUL	May I respond?	0
460	KELLY	Go ahead, sir.	0
461	PAUL	I want to collect more records from terrorists, but less records from innocent Americans.	0
462	PAUL	The Fourth Amendment was what we fought the Revolution over!	0
463	PAUL	John Adams said it was the spark that led to our war for independence, and I'm proud of standing for the Bill of Rights, and I will continue to stand for the Bill of Rights.	0
464	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
465	CHRISTIE	And -- and, Megyn?	0
466	CHRISTIE	Megyn, that's a -- that, you know, that's a completely ridiculous answer.	0
467	CHRISTIE	I want to collect more records from terrorists, but less records from other people.	0
468	CHRISTIE	How are you supposed to know, Megyn?	0
469	PAUL	Use the Fourth Amendment!	0
470	CHRISTIE	What are you supposed to...	0
471	PAUL	Use the Fourth Amendment!	0
472	CHRISTIE	...how are you supposed to -- no, I'll tell you how you, look...	0
473	PAUL	Get a warrant!	0
474	CHRISTIE	Let me tell you something, you go...	0
475	PAUL	Get a judge to sign the warrant!	0
476	CHRISTIE	When you -- you know, senator...	0
477	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
478	KELLY	Governor Christie, make your point.	0
479	CHRISTIE	Listen, senator, you know, when you're sitting in a subcommittee, just blowing hot air about this, you can say things like that.	0
480	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
481	CHRISTIE	When you're responsible for protecting the lives of the American people, then what you need to do is to make sure...	0
482	PAUL	See, here's the problem.	0
483	CHRISTIE	...is to make sure that you use the system the way it's supposed to work.	0
484	PAUL	Here's the problem, governor.	0
485	PAUL	Here's the problem, governor.	0
486	PAUL	You fundamentally misunderstand the Bill of Rights.	0
487	PAUL	Every time you did a case, you got a warrant from a judge.	0
488	PAUL	I'm talking about searches without warrants...	0
489	CHRISTIE	There is no...	0
490	PAUL	...indiscriminately, of all Americans' records, and that's what I fought to end.	0
491	PAUL	I don't trust President Obama with our records.	0
492	PAUL	I know you gave him a big hug, and if you want to give him a big hug again, go right ahead.	0
493	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
494	KELLY	Go ahead, governor.	0
495	CHRISTIE	And you know -- you know, Senator Paul?	0
496	CHRISTIE	Senator Paul, you know, the hugs that I remember are the hugs that I gave to the families who lost their people on September 11th.	0
497	CHRISTIE	Those are the hugs I remember, and those had nothing to do -- and those had nothing to do with politics, unlike what you're doing by cutting speeches on the floor of the Senate, then putting them on the Internet within half an hour to raise money for your campaign...	0
498	KELLY	Alright.	0
499	CHRISTIE	...and while still putting our country at risk.	0
500	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
501	KELLY	Alright, we've gotta cut it off there.	0
502	KELLY	We have plenty more we want to get to.	0
503	KELLY	That was an interesting exchange, thank you for that.	0
504	CHRISTIE	You know what, Megyn, can I...	0
505	KELLY	Well, I want to move on, because I have -- we're gonna get to you, governor, but I -- I really wanna get to a Facebook questioner.	0
506	KELLY	His name is Alex Chalgren, and he has the following question:	0
507	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
508	QUESTION	: My question is, how would the candidates stop the treacherous actions of ISIS -- ISIL and its growing influence in the U.S., if they were to become president?	0
509	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
510	KELLY	Senator Cruz, I wanna talk to you about this, because many of the Facebook users and -- and -- the -- the folks on Facebook wanted the candidates to speak to ISIS tonight.	0
511	KELLY	You asked the chairman of the joint chiefs a question: "What would it take to destroy ISIS in 90 days?"	0
512	KELLY	He told you "IISIS will only be truly destroyed once they are rejected by the populations in which they hide."	0
513	KELLY	And then you accused him of pushing Medicaid for the Iraqis.	0
514	KELLY	How would you destroy ISIS in 90 days?	0
515	CRUZ	Megyn, we need a commander in chief that speaks the truth.	0
516	CRUZ	We will not defeat radical Islamic terrorism so long as we have a president unwilling to utter the words, "radical Islamic terrorism".	0
517	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
518	CRUZ	When I asked General Dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs, what would be required militarily to destroy ISIS, he said there is no military solution.	0
519	CRUZ	We need to change the conditions on the ground so that young men are not in poverty and susceptible to radicalization.	0
520	CRUZ	That, with all due respect, is nonsense.	0
521	CRUZ	It's the same answer the State Department gave that we need to give them jobs.	0
522	CRUZ	What we need is a commander in chief who makes -- clear, if you join ISIS, if you wage jihad on America, then you are signing your death warrant.	0
523	KELLY	You don't see it as...	0
524	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
525	KELLY	...an ideological problem -- an ideological problem in addition to a military one?	0
526	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
527	CRUZ	Megyn, of course it's an ideological problem, that's one of the reasons I introduce the Expatriate Terrorist Act in the Senate that said if any American travels to the Middle East and joining ISIS, that he or she forfeits their citizenship so they don't use a passport to come back and wage jihad on Americans.	0
528	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
529	CRUZ	Yes, it is ideological, and let me contrast President Obama, who at the prayer breakfast, essentially acted as an apologist.	0
530	CRUZ	He said, "Well, gosh, the crusades, the inquisitions--"	0
531	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
532	CRUZ	We need a president that shows the courage that Egypt's President al-Sisi did, a Muslim, when he called out the radical Islamic terrorists who are threatening the world.	0
533	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
534	KELLY	Governor Bush, for days on end in this campaign, you struggled to answer a question about whether knowing what we know now...	0
535	BUSH	...I remember...	0
536	KELLY	...we would've invaded Iraq...	0
537	BUSH	...I remember, Megyn.	0
538	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
539	KELLY	I remember it too, and ISIS, of course, is now thriving there.	0
540	KELLY	You finally said, "No."	0
541	KELLY	To the families of those who died in that war who say they liberated a country and deposed a ruthless dictator, how do you look at them now and say that your brothers war was a mistake?	0
542	BUSH	Knowing what we know now, with faulty intelligence, and not having security be the first priority when -- when we invaded, it was a mistake.	0
543	BUSH	I wouldn't have gone in, however, for the people that did lose their lives, and the families that suffer because of it -- I know this full well because as governor of the state of Florida, I called every one of them.	0
544	BUSH	Every one of them that I could find to tell them that I was praying for them, that I cared about them, and it was really hard to do.	0
545	BUSH	And, every one of them said that their child did not die in vain, or their wife, of their husband did not die in vain.	0
546	BUSH	So, why it was difficult for me to do it was based on that.	0
547	BUSH	Here's the lesson that we should take from this, which relates to this whole subject.	0
548	BUSH	Barack Obama became president, and he abandoned Iraq.	0
549	BUSH	He left, and when he left Al Qaida was done for.	0
550	BUSH	ISIS was created because	0
551	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
552	BUSH	of the void that we left, and that void now exists as a caliphate the size of Indiana.	0
553	BUSH	To honor the people that died, we need to -- we need to --- stop the -- Iran agreement, for sure, because the Iranian mullahs have their blood on their hands, and we need to take out ISIS with every tool at our disposal.	0
554	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
555	KELLY	Governor Walker, in February you said that we needed to gain partners in the Arab world.	0
556	KELLY	Which Arab country not already in the U.S. led coalition has potential to be our greatest partner?	0
557	WALKER	I don't know about additional ones.	0
558	WALKER	We need to focus on the ones we have.	0
559	WALKER	You look at Egypt, probably the best relationship we've had in Israel, at least in my lifetime, incredibly important.	0
560	WALKER	You look at the Saudis -- in fact, earlier this year, I met with Saudi leaders, and leaders from the United Arab Emirates, and I asked them what's the greatest challenge in the world today?	0
561	WALKER	Set aside the Iran deal.	0
562	WALKER	They said it's the disengagement of America.	0
563	WALKER	We are leading from behind under the Obama-Clinton doctrine -- America's a great country.	0
564	WALKER	We need to stand up and start leading again, and we need to have allies, not just in Israel, but throughout the Persian Gulf.	0
565	KELLY	Dr. Carson, in one of his first acts as commander in chief, President Obama signed an executive order banning enhanced interrogation techniques in fighting terror.	0
566	KELLY	As president, would you bring back water boarding?	0
567	CARSON	Well, thank you, Megyn, I wasn't sure I was going to get to talk again.	0
568	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
569	KELLY	We have a lot for you, don't worry.	0
570	SYSTEM	[ laughter and applause ]	0
571	KELLY	Fear not, you may rue that request.	0
572	CARSON	Alright.	0
573	CARSON	You know, what we do in order to get the information that we need is our business, and I wouldn't necessarily be broadcasting what we're going to do.	0
574	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
575	CARSON	We. .	0
576	CARSON	.uh. .	0
577	CARSON	.we've gotten into this -- this mindset of fighting politically correct wars.	0
578	CARSON	There is no such thing as a politically correct war.	0
579	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
580	CARSON	And, the left, of course, will say Carson doesn't believe in the Geneva Convention.	0
581	CARSON	Carson doesn't believe in fighting stupid wars.	0
582	CARSON	And -- and what we have to remember is we want to utilize the tremendous intellect that we have in the military to win wars.	0
583	CARSON	And I've talked to a lot of the generals, a lot of our advanced people.	0
584	CARSON	And believe me, if we gave them the mission, which is what the commander-in-chief does, they would be able to carry it out.	0
585	CARSON	And if we don't tie their hands behind their back, they will do it...	0
586	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
587	CARSON	...extremely effectively.	0
588	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
589	BAIER	Gentlemen, the next series of questions deals with ObamaCare and the role of the federal government.	0
590	BAIER	Mr. Trump, ObamaCare is one of the things you call a disaster.	0
591	TRUMP	A complete disaster, yes.	0
592	BAIER	Saying it needs to be repealed and replaced.	0
593	TRUMP	Correct.	0
594	BAIER	Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care.	0
595	BAIER	You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system.	1
596	BAIER	Why were you for that then and why aren't you for it now?	0
597	TRUMP	First of all, I'd like to just go back to one.	0
598	TRUMP	In July of 2004, I came out strongly against the war with Iraq, because it was going to destabilize the Middle East.	0
599	TRUMP	And I'm the only one on this stage that knew that and had the vision to say it.	0
600	TRUMP	And that's exactly what happened.	0
601	BAIER	But on ObamaCare...	0
602	TRUMP	And the Middle East became totally destabilized.	0
603	TRUMP	So I just want to say.	0
604	TRUMP	As far as single payer, it works in Canada.	0
605	TRUMP	It works incredibly well in Scotland.	0
606	TRUMP	It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about here.	0
607	TRUMP	What I'd like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state.	0
608	TRUMP	I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees.	0
609	TRUMP	And if I'm negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder.	0
610	TRUMP	Nobody can bid.	0
611	TRUMP	You know why?	0
612	TRUMP	Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage.	0
613	TRUMP	But they have total control of the politicians.	0
614	TRUMP	They're making a fortune.	0
615	TRUMP	Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have...	0
616	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
617	TRUMP	...yourself great plans.	0
618	TRUMP	And then we have to take care of the people that can't take care of themselves.	0
619	TRUMP	And I will do that through a different system.	0
620	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
621	BAIER	Mr. Trump, hold up one second.	0
622	PAUL	I've got a news flash...	0
623	BAIER	All right, now, hold on, Senator Paul...	0
624	PAUL	News flash, the Republican Party's been fighting against a single-payer system...	0
625	BAIER	OK.	0
626	PAUL	-- for a decade.	0
627	PAUL	So I think you're on the wrong side of this if you're still arguing for a single-payer system.	0
628	TRUMP	I'm not -- I'm not are -- I don't think you heard me.	0
629	TRUMP	You're having a hard time tonight.	0
630	BAIER	All right, let me...	0
631	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
632	BAIER	Mr. Trump, it's not just your past support for single- payer health care.	0
633	BAIER	You've also supported a host of other liberal policies.	0
634	BAIER	Use -- you've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, Nancy Pelosi.	0
635	BAIER	You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors.	0
636	BAIER	And you said recently, quote, "When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do."	0
637	TRUMP	You'd better believe it.	0
638	BAIER	So what specifically did...	0
639	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	That's true.	0
640	BAIER	-- they do?	0
641	TRUMP	If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I've given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.	0
642	RUBIO	Not me.	0
643	HUCKABEE	Not me.	0
644	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
645	HUCKABEE	But you're welcome to give me a check, Donald if you'd like.	0
646	TRUMP	Many of them.	0
647	RUBIO	Actually, to be clear...	0
648	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
649	RUBIO	...he supported Charlie Crist.	0
650	TRUMP	Not much.	0
651	RUBIO	Hey, Charlie...	0
652	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
653	TRUMP	But I...	0
654	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
655	KASICH	Donald, if you...	0
656	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
657	TRUMP	I have good...	0
658	KASICH	-- this campaign, I hope you will give to me.	0
659	TRUMP	Good.	0
660	KASICH	OK.	0
661	TRUMP	Sounds good.	0
662	TRUMP	Sounds good to me, Governor.	0
663	TRUMP	I will tell you that our system is broken.	0
664	TRUMP	I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman.	0
665	TRUMP	I give to everybody.	0
666	TRUMP	When they call, I give.	0
667	TRUMP	And do you know what?	0
668	TRUMP	When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.	0
669	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	So what did you get?	0
670	TRUMP	And that's a broken system.	0
671	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?	0
672	TRUMP	Well, I'll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding.	0
673	TRUMP	You know why?	0
674	TRUMP	She didn't have a choice because I gave.	0
675	TRUMP	I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good.	0
676	TRUMP	I didn't know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world.	0
677	TRUMP	It was.	0
678	TRUMP	But...[	0
679	TRUMP	timer sounds ]	0
680	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
681	BAIER	Hold on.	0
682	BAIER	We're going to -- we're going to move on.	0
683	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
684	BAIER	We'll come back to you, Governor Walker.	0
685	WALKER	Just one second on this, though.	0
686	WALKER	We -- we spent a lot of time talking about Hillary Clinton and ---and pitting us back and forth.	0
687	WALKER	Let's be clear, we should be talking about Hillary Clinton on that last subject, because everywhere in the world that Hillary Clinton touched is more messed up today than before she and the president	0
688	SYSTEM	[ inaudible ]	0
689	WALKER	.	0
690	BAIER	We have many questions to come.	0
691	WALKER	It's true.	0
692	BAIER	Many questions to come.	0
693	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
694	BAIER	Governor Huckabee, on Facebook, John Pietricone asked this, "Will you abolish or take away the powers and cut the size of the EPA, the IRS, the Department of Education?"	0
695	BAIER	Now, broadly...	0
696	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
697	BAIER	...broadly, the size of government is a big concern for Facebook users, Facebook persons, as well as, obviously, conservatives.	0
698	BAIER	But year after year, decade after decade, there are promises from Republicans to shrink government.	0
699	BAIER	But year after year, decade after decade, it doesn't happen.	0
700	BAIER	In fact, it gets bigger, even under Republican politicians.	0
701	BAIER	So the question is, at this point, is the government simply too big for any one person, even a Republican, to shrink?	0
702	HUCKABEE	It's not too big to shrink.	0
703	HUCKABEE	But the problem is we have a Wall Street-to-Washington axis of power that has controlled the political climate.	0
704	HUCKABEE	The donor class feeds the political class who does the dance that the donor class wants.	0
705	HUCKABEE	And the result is federal government keeps getting bigger.	0
706	HUCKABEE	Every person on this stage who has been a governor will tell that you the biggest fight they had was not the other party.	0
707	HUCKABEE	Wasn't even the legislature.	0
708	HUCKABEE	It was the federal government, who continually put mandates on the states that we had to suck up and pay for.	0
709	HUCKABEE	And the fact is there are a lot of things happening at the federal level that are absolutely beyond the jurisdiction of the Constitution.	0
710	HUCKABEE	This is power that should be shifted back to the states, whether it's the EPA, there is no role at the federal level for the Department of Education.	0
711	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
712	HUCKABEE	And I'm still one who says that we can get rid of the Internal Revenue Service if we would pass the FairTax, which is a tax on consumption rather than a tax on people's income, and move power back where the founders believed it should have been all along.	0
713	BAIER	Dr. Carson...	0
714	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	Bret, Bret, Bret...	0
715	BAIER	Dr. Carson, do you agree with that?	0
716	CARSON	What I agree with is that we need a significantly changed taxation system.	0
717	CARSON	And the one that I've advocated is based on tithing, because I think God is a pretty fair guy.	0
718	CARSON	And he said, you know, if you give me a tithe, it doesn't matter how much you made.	0
719	CARSON	If you've had a bumper crop, you don't owe me triple tithes.	0
720	CARSON	And if you've had no crops at all, you don't owe me no tithes.	0
721	CARSON	So there must be something inherently fair about that.	0
722	CARSON	And that's why I've advocated a proportional tax system.	0
723	CARSON	You make $10 billion, you pay a billion.	0
724	CARSON	You make $10, you pay one.	0
725	CARSON	And everybody gets treated the same way.	0
726	CARSON	And you get rid of the deductions, you get rid of all the loopholes, and...	0
727	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
728	BAIER	Governor Bush?	0
729	CARSON	And I have a lot more to say about it.	0
730	BAIER	We're going to come back to you, Dr. Carson.	0
731	BAIER	Governor Bush, you are one of the few people on the stage who advocates for Common Core education standards, reading and math.	0
732	BAIER	A lot of people on this stage vigorously oppose a federal involvement in education.	0
733	BAIER	They say it should all be handled locally.	0
734	BAIER	President Obama's secretary of education, Arnie Duncan, has said that most of the criticism of Common Core is due to a, quote, "fringe group of critics."	0
735	BAIER	Do you think that's accurate?	0
736	BUSH	No, I don't.	0
737	BUSH	And I don't believe the federal government should be involved in the creation of standards directly or indirectly, the creation of curriculum or content.	0
738	BUSH	It is clearly a state responsibility.	0
739	BUSH	I'm for higher standards...	0
740	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
741	BUSH	...measured in an intellectually honest way, with abundant school choice, ending social promotion.	0
742	BUSH	And I know how to do this because as governor of the state of Florida I created the first statewide voucher program in the country, the second statewide voucher program, in the country and the third statewide voucher program in the country.	0
743	BUSH	And we had rising student achievement across the board, because high standards, robust accountability, ending social promotion in third grade, real school choice across the board, challenging the teachers union and beating them is the way to go.	0
744	BUSH	And Florida's low income kids had the greatest gains inside the country.	0
745	BUSH	Our graduation rate improved by 50 percent.	0
746	BUSH	That's what I'm for.	0
747	BAIER	Senator Rubio, why is Governor Bush wrong on Common Core?	0
748	RUBIO	Well, first off, I too believe in curriculum reform.	0
749	RUBIO	It is critically important in the 21st Century.	0
750	RUBIO	We do need curriculum reform.	0
751	RUBIO	And it should happen at the state and local level.	0
752	RUBIO	That's. . .	0
753	RUBIO	that's. . .	0
754	RUBIO	that is where educational policy belongs, because if a parent is unhappy with what their child is being taught in school, they can go to that local school board or their state legislature, or their governor and get it changed.	0
755	RUBIO	Here's the problem with Common Core.	0
756	RUBIO	The Department of Education, like every federal agency, will never be satisfied.	0
757	RUBIO	They will not stop with it being a suggestion.	0
758	RUBIO	They will turn it into a mandate.	0
759	RUBIO	In fact, what they will begin to say to local communities is, you will not get federal money unless do you things the way we want you to do it.	0
760	RUBIO	And they will use Common Core or any other requirements that exists nationally to force it down the throats of our people in our states.	0
761	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
762	BAIER	And do you agree with your old friend?	0
763	BUSH	He is definitely my friend.	0
764	BUSH	And I think the states ought to create these standards.	0
765	BUSH	And if states want to opt out of Common Core, fine.	0
766	BUSH	Just make sure your standards are high.	0
767	BUSH	Because today in America, a third of our kids, after we spend more per student than any country in the world other than a couple rounding errors, to be honest with you, 30 percent are college- and/or career-ready.	1
768	BUSH	If we are going to compete in this world we're in today, there is no possible way we can do it with lowering expectations and dumbing down everything.	0
769	BUSH	Children are going to suffer and families' hearts are going to be broken that their kids won't be able to get a job in the 21st Century.	0
770	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
771	BAIER	We have many more questions coming on a host of topics, here from Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland.	0
772	BAIER	Stay with us.	0
773	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
774	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	What would make stand out as the best choice for the Republican nomination?	0
775	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	How do you intend to go about student loan reform?	0
776	UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE	What will be the first thing you will do to stimulate economic growth in our country and bring more jobs to the United States?	0
777	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
778	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
779	BAIER	We have many more questions coming on a host of topics.	0
780	BAIER	Here from Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland.	0
781	BAIER	Stay with us.	0
782	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
783	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	What would make you stand out as the best choice for the Republican nomination?	0
784	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	How do you intend to go about student loan reform?	0
785	UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE	What will be the first thing you will do to stimulate economic growth in our country and bring more jobs to the United States?	0
786	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
787	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
788	KELLY	It's just before 10:00 p.m. on the East Coast.	0
789	KELLY	Welcome back to Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio, and the very first Republican primary debate of the 2016 presidential campaign.	0
790	KELLY	Ten candidates on the stage, selected based on their standing in five national polls.	0
791	KELLY	And tonight they are facing off, answering the questions you want asked.	0
792	KELLY	We hope.	0
793	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
794	WALLACE	Gentlemen, we're obviously digging into some subjects in depth, but we're also going to change it up every once in a while throughout the next hour and have many rounds where we ask, you are not going to like it, only a couple of candidates questions on those subjects.	0
795	WALLACE	This is the first of the many rounds, and it's about somebody whose name probably hasn't been mentioned enough so far tonight.	0
796	WALLACE	Governor Kasich, let me start with you.	0
797	WALLACE	Whoever the Republican nominee --	0
798	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
799	WALLACE	Whoever the Republican nominee is, it looks at least for now like whoever that nominee is, he or she, will be facing off against Hillary Clinton.	0
800	WALLACE	You know how she will come after whoever the Republican nominee is.	0
801	WALLACE	She will say that you, whoever it is, support the rich while she supports the middle class.	0
802	WALLACE	That you want to suppress the rights of women and minorities.	0
803	WALLACE	She wants to move the country forward while you, the Republicans, want to take the country back to the past.	0
804	WALLACE	How will you, if you're the nominee, how will you answer that and take Hillary Clinton on?	0
805	KASICH	Let's start off with my father being a mailman.	0
806	KASICH	So I understand the concerns of all the folks across this country, some of whom have trouble, you know, making ends meet.	0
807	KASICH	But I think she will come in a narrow way.	0
808	KASICH	The nominee of this party, if they're going to win, has got to come at it in a big way, which is pro-growth.	0
809	KASICH	Which is balancing budgets.	0
810	KASICH	You know, we were talking about it.	0
811	KASICH	People were saying, could we do it?	0
812	KASICH	I was the chairman of the Budget Committee and the lead architect the last time it happened in Washington, and when we did it we had great economic growth, we cut taxes, and we had a big surplus.	0
813	KASICH	Economic growth is the key.	0
814	KASICH	Economic growth is the key to everything.	0
815	KASICH	But once you have economic growth, it is important that we reach out to people who live in the shadows, the people who don't seem to ever think that they get a fair deal.	0
816	KASICH	And that includes people in our minority community; that includes people who feel as though they don't have a chance to move up.	0
817	KASICH	You know, America is a miracle country.	0
818	KASICH	And we have to restore the sense that the "Amiracle" will apply to you.	0
819	KASICH	Each and every one of the people in this country who's watching tonight, lift everybody,	0
820	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
821	KASICH	unite everybody and build a stronger United States of America again.	0
822	KASICH	It will be and can be done.	0
823	WALLACE	I know that all of you would like to answer this question, but we're only going to ask one other candidate before we move on to a different subject, Dr. Carson.	0
824	WALLACE	Basically, same question to you.	0
825	WALLACE	If Hillary Clinton is the nominee and she comes at you with that kind of line of attack, how will you take Iraq?	0
826	CARSON	If Hillary is the candidate, which I doubt, that would be a dream come true.	0
827	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
828	CARSON	But you know, the fact of the matter is, she is the epitome of the progressive -- the secular progressive movement.	0
829	CARSON	And she counts on the fact that people are uninformed, the Alinsky Model, taking advantage of useful idiots.	0
830	CARSON	Well, I just happen to believe that people are not stupid.	0
831	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
832	CARSON	And the way I will come at it is to educate people, help people to actually understand that it is that progressive movement that is causing them the problems.	0
833	CARSON	You know, you look at the -- the national debt and how it's being driven up.	0
834	CARSON	If I was trying to destroy this country, what I would do is find a way to drive wedges between all the people, drive the debt to an unsustainable level, and then step off the stage as a world leader and let our enemies increase while we decreased our capacity as a military person.	0
835	CARSON	And that's what she's doing.	0
836	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
837	WALLACE	Gentlemen, we're going to turn now to the subject of the economy, jobs and money and the government.	0
838	WALLACE	And Governor Bush, I'm going to start with you.	0
839	WALLACE	You have made a bold promise in your announcement.	0
840	WALLACE	You have promised four percent economic growth and 19 million new jobs if you are fortunate enough to serve two terms as president.	0
841	WALLACE	That many jobs, 19 million, would be triple what your father and your brother accomplished together.	0
842	WALLACE	And four percent growth, the last president to average that was Lyndon Johnson during the height of the Vietnam War.	0
843	WALLACE	So question, how on Earth specifically would you pull that off?	0
844	BUSH	We've done it 27 times since World War II.	0
845	BUSH	I think we need to lift our spirits and have high, lofty expectations for this great country of ours.	0
846	BUSH	The new normal of two percent that the left is saying you can't do anything about is so dangerous for our country.	0
847	BUSH	There's 6 million people living in poverty today, more than when Barack Obama got elected.	0
848	BUSH	6.5 million people are working part-time, most of whom want to work full-time.	0
849	BUSH	We've created rules and taxes on top of every aspiration of people, and the net result is we're not growing fast, income's not growing.	0
850	BUSH	A four percent growth strategy means you fix a convoluted tax code.	0
851	BUSH	You get in and you change every aspect of regulations that are job killers.	0
852	BUSH	You get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something that doesn't suppress wages and kill jobs.	0
853	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
854	BUSH	You embrace the energy revolution in our country.	0
855	BUSH	This president and Hillary Clinton, who can't even say she's for the XL pipeline even after she's left?	0
856	BUSH	Give me a break.	0
857	BUSH	Of course we're for it.	0
858	BUSH	We should be for these things to create high sustained economic growth.	0
859	BUSH	And frankly,	0
860	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
861	BUSH	fixing our immigration system and turning it into an economic driver is part of this as well.	0
862	BUSH	We can do this.	0
863	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
864	WALLACE	Governor Walker.	0
865	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
866	WALLACE	Governor Walker, when you ran for governor of Wisconsin back in 2010, you promised that you would create 250,000 jobs in your first term, first four years.	0
867	WALLACE	In fact, Wisconsin added barely half that and ranked 35th in the country in job growth.	0
868	WALLACE	Now you're running for president, and you're promising an economic plan in which everyone will earn a piece of the American dream.	0
869	WALLACE	Given your record in Wisconsin, why should voters believe you?	0
870	WALKER	Well, the voters in Wisconsin elected me last year for the third time because they wanted someone who aimed high, not aimed low.	0
871	WALKER	Before I came in, the unemployment rate was over eight percent.	0
872	WALKER	It's now down to 4.6 percent.	0
873	WALKER	We've more than made up for the jobs that were lost during the recession.	0
874	WALKER	And the rate in which people are working is almost five points higher than it is nationally.	0
875	WALKER	You know, people like Hillary Clinton think you grow the economy by growing Washington.	0
876	WALKER	One report last year showed that six of the top 10 wealthiest counties in America were in or around Washington, D.C..	0
877	WALKER	I think most of us in America understand that people, not the government creates jobs.	0
878	WALKER	And one of the best things we can do is get the government out of the way, repeal Obamacare, put in -- reign in all the out of control regulations, put in place an all of the above energy policy, give people the education, the skills that the need to succeed, and lower the tax rate and reform the tax code.	0
879	WALKER	That's what I'll do as president, just like I did in Wisconsin.	0
880	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
881	WALLACE	Governor Christie, I want to engage you and Governor Huckabee in a subject that is a big issue in both of your campaigns, and that is entitlement reform.	0
882	WALLACE	You say that you -- to save the system that you want to raise the retirement age -- have to raise the retirement age, and to cut benefits for Social Security and Medicare, and you say that some of the candidates here on the stage are lying.	0
883	WALLACE	Governor Huckabee says he can save Social Security and Medicare without doing any of that.	0
884	WALLACE	Is he lying?	0
885	CHRISTIE	No, he's not lying, he's just wrong.	0
886	CHRISTIE	I mean, so, there's a difference -- I'm the only guy on this stage who's put out a detailed, 12 point plan on entitlement reform and here's why -- because 71% of federal spending right now is on entitlements, and debt service, 71%.	0
887	CHRISTIE	And we have spent the last hour and five minutes talking about the other 29%, and no time on the 71%, and that makes no sense.	0
888	CHRISTIE	Now, let me tell you exactly what we would do on Social Security.	0
889	CHRISTIE	Yes, we'd raise the retirement age two years, and phase it in over 25 years, that means we'd raise it one month a year for 25 years when we're all living longer, and living better lives.	0
890	CHRISTIE	Secondly, we would means test Social Security for those who are making over $200,000 dollars a year in retirement income, and have $4 to $5 million dollars in liquid assets saved.	0
891	CHRISTIE	They don't need that Social Security check.	0
892	CHRISTIE	Social Security is meant to be -- to make sure that no one who's worked hard, and played by the rules, and paid into the system grows old in poverty in America.	0
893	CHRISTIE	If we don't deal with this problem, it will bankrupt our country, or lead to massive tax increases, neither one that we want in this country.	0
894	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
895	WALLACE	Governor Huckabee?	0
896	WALLACE	You say that changing entitlements, the kind of thing that Governor Christie is talking about, would be breaking a promise to the American people, and you say that you can keep those programs, save Social Security, save Medicare, without those kinds of reforms through a FairTax, which is a broad tax on consumption.	0
897	WALLACE	Please explain to Governor Christie how that would work, and how you could save these programs without the kind of painful reforms he says we need?	0
898	HUCKABEE	Well, let's all be reminded, 60 million Americans are on Social Security, 60 million.	0
899	HUCKABEE	A third of those people depend on 90% of their income from Social Security.	0
900	HUCKABEE	Nobody in this country is on Social Security because they made the decision when they were starting work at 14 that they wanted to trust some of their money with the government.	0
901	HUCKABEE	The government took it out of their check whether they wanted them to or not.	0
902	HUCKABEE	And, if person goes to 65, they're going to spend 51 years with the government reaching into their pocket at every paycheck.	0
903	HUCKABEE	Now, here's the point, whose fault is it that the system is screwed up?	0
904	HUCKABEE	Is it the recipients, or is it the government?	0
905	HUCKABEE	And, if Congress wants to mess with the retirement program, why don't we let them start by changing their retirement program, and not have one, instead of talking about getting rid of Social Security and Medicare that was robbed $700 billion dollars to pay for Obamacare.	0
906	HUCKABEE	It's always that the government figures that they can do this off the backs of people, many of whom are poor, and depend on that money, and I just think it's fundamentally lying to the people and stealing from them, and we shouldn't be doing it.	0
907	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
908	CHRISTIE	Chris...	0
909	WALLACE	...Thirty seconds.	0
910	CHRISTIE	Yeah, sure.	0
911	CHRISTIE	And, I don't disagree with ending Congress' retirement program.	0
912	CHRISTIE	I'm a governor, I don't have a retirement program in my state, and I don't disagree with that.	0
913	CHRISTIE	But, here's the news to the American people, he's complaining about the lying and stealing.	0
914	CHRISTIE	The lying and stealing has already occurred.	0
915	CHRISTIE	The trust fund is filled with IOU's.	0
916	CHRISTIE	We can't fix the problem just by ending Congress's retirement, that's worth about, "this" much.	0
917	CHRISTIE	We need to go at the fundamental problem, and the fundamental problem is that this system is broken.	0
918	CHRISTIE	It has been stolen from.	0
919	CHRISTIE	We have been lied to,	0
920	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
921	CHRISTIE	and we need a strong leader to tell the truth and fix...	0
922	WALLACE	...Alright, this is it.	0
923	WALLACE	Thirty Seconds, finally.	0
924	HUCKABEE	Well, you ask about how we fund it.	0
925	HUCKABEE	One of the reasons that Social Security is in so much trouble is that the only funding stream comes from people who get a wage.	0
926	HUCKABEE	The people who get wages is declining dramatically.	0
927	HUCKABEE	Most of the income in this country is made by people at the top who get dividends and -- and capital gains.	0
928	HUCKABEE	The FairTax transforms the process by which we fund Social Security and Medicare because the money paid in consumption is paid by everybody, including illegals, prostitutes, pimps, drug dealers, all the people	0
929	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
930	HUCKABEE	that are freeloading off the system now.	0
931	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
932	HUCKABEE	That's why it ought to be a transformed system.	0
933	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
934	WALLACE	All right.	0
935	WALLACE	Enough.	0
936	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
937	WALLACE	Mr. Trump.	0
938	SYSTEM	[ off mike ]	0
939	KELLY	Sounds like somebody's a little R-rated.	0
940	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
941	WALLACE	Mr. Trump, you talk a lot about how you are the person on this stage to grow the economy, I want to ask you about your business records.	0
942	WALLACE	From corporations, Trump corporations, casinos and hotels, have declared bankruptcy four times over the last quarter-century.	0
943	UNKNOWN	...In 2011, you told Forbes Magazine this: "I've used the laws of the country to my advantage."	0
944	UNKNOWN	But at the same time, financial experts involved in those bankruptcies say that lenders to your companies lost billions of dollars.	0
945	UNKNOWN	Question sir, with that record, why should we trust you to run the nation's business?	0
946	TRUMP	Because I have used the laws of this country just like the greatest people that you read about every day in business have used the laws of this country, the chapter laws, to do a great job for my company, for myself, for my employees, for my family, et cetera.	0
947	TRUMP	I have never gone bankrupt, by the way.	0
948	TRUMP	I have never.	0
949	TRUMP	But out of hundreds of deals...	0
950	WALLACE	No, but the concept sir...	0
951	TRUMP	Excuse me.	0
952	TRUMP	Excuse me.	0
953	WALLACE	... that's your line, but your companies have gone bankrupt.	0
954	TRUMP	Excuse me, what am I saying?	0
955	TRUMP	Out of hundreds of deals that I've done, hundreds, on four occasions I've taken advantage of the laws of this country, like other people.	0
956	TRUMP	I'm not going to name their names because I'm not going to embarrass, but virtually every person that you read about on the front page of the business sections, they've used the law.	0
957	TRUMP	The difference is, when somebody else uses those laws, nobody writes about it.	0
958	TRUMP	When I use it, they say, "Trump, Trump, Trump."	0
959	TRUMP	The fact is, I built a net worth of more than $10 billion.	0
960	TRUMP	I have a great, great company.	0
961	TRUMP	I employ thousands of people.	0
962	TRUMP	And I'm very proud of the job I did.	0
963	TRUMP	Again Chris, hundreds and hundreds of deals.	0
964	TRUMP	Four times, I've taken advantage of the laws.	0
965	TRUMP	And frankly, so has everybody else in my position.	0
966	WALLACE	Well sir, let's just talk about the latest example...	0
967	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
968	WALLACE	...which is Trump Entertainment Resorts, which went bankrupt in 2009.	0
969	WALLACE	In that case alone, lenders to your company lost over $1 billion and more than 1,100 people were laid off.	0
970	TRUMP	Well, I...	0
971	WALLACE	Is that the way that you'd run the country?	0
972	TRUMP	Let me just tell you about the lenders.	0
973	TRUMP	First of all, these lenders aren't babies.	0
974	TRUMP	These are total killers.	0
975	TRUMP	These are not the nice, sweet little people that you think, OK?	0
976	SYSTEM	[ laughter and applause ]	0
977	TRUMP	You know, I mean you're living in a world of the make-believe, Chris, you want to know the truth.	0
978	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
979	TRUMP	And I had the good sense to leave Atlantic City, which by the way, Caesars just went bankrupt.	0
980	TRUMP	Every company, Chris can tell you, every company virtually in Atlantic City went bankrupt.	0
981	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
982	TRUMP	Every company.	0
983	TRUMP	And let me just tell you.	0
984	TRUMP	I had the good sense, and I've gotten a lot of credit in the financial pages, seven years ago I left Atlantic City before it totally cratered, and I made a lot of money in Atlantic City, and I'm very proud of it.	0
985	TRUMP	I want to tell you that.	0
986	TRUMP	Very, very proud of it.	0
987	WALLACE	So...	0
988	TRUMP	And by the way, this country right now owes $19 trillion.	0
989	TRUMP	And they need somebody like me to straighten out that mess.	0
990	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
991	WALLACE	Senator Rubio.	0
992	WALLACE	Senator Rubio, more than 3,000 people sent us questions about the economy and jobs on Facebook.	0
993	WALLACE	And here is a video question from Tania Cioloko from Philadelphia.	0
994	WALLACE	Here she is.	0
995	SYSTEM	[ begin video clip ]	0
996	QUESTION	Please describe one action you would do to make the economic environment more favorable for small businesses and entrepreneurs and anyone dreaming of opening their own business.	0
997	SYSTEM	[ close video clip ]	0
998	RUBIO	That's a great question.	0
999	WALLACE	Senator, how do you answer Tania?	0
1000	RUBIO	That's a great question.	0
1001	RUBIO	First of all, it begins by having leaders that recognize that the economy we live in today is dramatically different from the one we had five years ago.	0
1002	RUBIO	It's an economy that now has placed us in global competition with dozens of other countries around the world.	0
1003	RUBIO	Now, the big companies that have connections with Washington, they can affect policies to help them, but the small companies like the one Tania is talking about, they're the ones that are struggling.	0
1004	RUBIO	The first thing we need to do is we need to even out the tax code for small businesses so that we lower their tax rate to 25 percent, just as we need to lower it for all businesses.	0
1005	RUBIO	We need to have a regulatory budget in America that limits the amount of regulations on our economy.	0
1006	RUBIO	We need to repeal and replace Obamacare and we need to improve higher education so that people can have access to the skills they need for 21st century jobs.	0
1007	RUBIO	And last but not least, we need to repeal Dodd-Frank.	0
1008	RUBIO	It is eviscerating small businesses and small banks.	0
1009	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1010	RUBIO	20 — over 40 percent of small and mid-size banks that loan money to small businesses have been wiped out over the — since Dodd-Frank has passed.	0
1011	RUBIO	We need to repeal and replace Dodd-Frank.	0
1012	RUBIO	We need to make America fair again for all businesses, but especially those being run by small business owners.	0
1013	WALLACE	Senator Rubio, thank you.	0
1014	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1015	BAIER	Gentlemen, another question for a few of you.	0
1016	BAIER	Yesterday, just yesterday, President Obama criticized Republican lawmakers trying to block the Iran deal, calling them knee-jerk partisans, adding that hardliners in Iran who chant "death to America" were, quote, "making common cause with the Republican caucus."	0
1017	BAIER	Here's what two of your opponents on the 5 p.m. debate stage said about Iran.	0
1018	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
1019	PERRY	I will tell you one thing: I would whole lot rather had Carly Fiorina over there doing our negotiation than John Kerry.	0
1020	PERRY	Maybe we would've gotten a deal where we didn't give everything away.	0
1021	PERRY	But the issue for us is to have a Congress that stands up and says not only no, but hell no, to this money going to a regime that is going to use it for terror...	0
1022	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
1023	SYSTEM	[ video clip begins ]	0
1024	FIORINA	When America does not lead, the world is a dangerous and a tragic place.	0
1025	FIORINA	This is a bad deal.	0
1026	FIORINA	Obama broke every rule of negotiation.	0
1027	FIORINA	Yes, our allies are not perfect, but Iran is at the heart of most of the evil that is going on in the Middle East through their proxy.	0
1028	SYSTEM	[ video clip ends ]	0
1029	BAIER	Now, I wanna ask a few of you this.	0
1030	BAIER	First, Governor Walker.	0
1031	BAIER	You've said that you would tear up the Iran deal on day one.	0
1032	BAIER	If this deal is undone, what then?	0
1033	WALKER	Well, first off, let's remember.	0
1034	WALKER	I still remember, as a kid, tying a yellow ribbon around a tree in front of my house during the 444 days that Iran held 52 Americans hostage.	0
1035	WALKER	Iran is not a place we should be doing business with.	0
1036	WALKER	To me, you terminate the deal on day one, you reinstate the sanctions authorized by Congress, you go to Congress and put in place even more crippling sanctions in place, and then you convince our allies to do the same.	0
1037	WALKER	This is not just bad with Iran, this is bad with ISIS.	0
1038	WALKER	It is tied together, and, once and for all, we need a leader who's gonna stand up and do something about it.	0
1039	WALKER	It's yet another example of the failed foreign policy of the Obama-Clinton doctrine.	0
1040	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1041	BAIER	Senator Paul, would you tear up the deal on day one?	0
1042	PAUL	I oppose the Iranian deal, and will vote against it.	0
1043	PAUL	I don't think that the president negotiated from a position of strength, but I don't immediately discount negotiations.	0
1044	PAUL	I'm a Reagan conservative.	0
1045	PAUL	Reagan did negotiate with the Soviets.	0
1046	PAUL	But you have to negotiate from a position of strength, and I think President Obama gave away too much, too early.	0
1047	PAUL	If there's going to be a negotiation, you're going to have to believe somehow that the Iranians are going to comply.	0
1048	PAUL	And I asked this question to John Kerry, I said "do you believe they're trustworthy?"	0
1049	PAUL	and he said "No."	0
1050	PAUL	And I said, "well, how are we gonna get them to comply?"	0
1051	PAUL	I would have never released the sanctions before there was consistent evidence of compliance.	0
1052	BAIER	Governor Huckabee, what do you think about what Senator Paul just said?	0
1053	HUCKABEE	Ronald Reagan said "trust, but verify."	0
1054	HUCKABEE	President Obama is "trust, but vilify."	0
1055	HUCKABEE	He trusts our enemies and vilifies everyone who disagrees with him.	0
1056	HUCKABEE	And the reason we disagree with him has nothing to do with party.	0
1057	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1058	SYSTEM	[ crosstalk ]	0
1059	HUCKABEE	It has to do with the incredibly dangerous place that this world is gonna be as a result of a deal in which we got nothing.	0
1060	HUCKABEE	We didn't even get four hostages out.	0
1061	HUCKABEE	We got nothing, and Iran gets everything they want.	0
1062	HUCKABEE	We said we would have anywhere, anytime negotiations and inspections, we gave that up.	0
1063	HUCKABEE	We said that we would make sure that they didn't have any nuclear capacity, we gave that up.	0
1064	HUCKABEE	The president can't tell us what we got.	0
1065	HUCKABEE	I'll tell you what the world got.	0
1066	HUCKABEE	The world has a burgeoning nuclear power that didn't, as the Soviets, say "we might defend ourselves in a war."	0
1067	HUCKABEE	What the Iranians have said is, "we will wipe Israel off the face of the map, and we will bring death to America."	0
1068	HUCKABEE	When someone points a gun at your head	0
1069	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1070	HUCKABEE	and loads it, by God, you ought to take them seriously, and we need to take that seriously.	0
1071	BAIER	Thank you, gentlemen.	0
1072	KELLY	Well, the first debate night of the 2016 presidential campaign continues from Cleveland after a short time-out.	0
1073	KELLY	Stick around.	0
1074	KELLY	Social issues, next.	0
1075	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
1076	KELLY	Senator Rubio, you favor a rape and incest exception to abortion bans.	0
1077	KELLY	Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York just said yesterday those exceptions are preposterous.	0
1078	KELLY	He said they discriminate against an entire class of human beings.	0
1079	KELLY	If you believe that life begins at conception, as you say you do, how do you justify ending a life just because it begins violently, through no fault of the baby?	0
1080	RUBIO	Well, Megyn, first of all, I'm not sure that that's a correct assessment of my record.	0
1081	RUBIO	I would go on to add that I believe all--	0
1082	KELLY	You don't favor a rape and incest exception?	0
1083	RUBIO	I have never said that.	0
1084	RUBIO	And I have never advocated that.	0
1085	RUBIO	What I have advocated is that we pass law in this country that says all human life at every stage of its development is worthy of protection.	0
1086	RUBIO	In fact, I think that law already exists.	0
1087	RUBIO	It is called the Constitution of the United States.	0
1088	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1089	RUBIO	And let me go further.	0
1090	RUBIO	I believe that every single human being is entitled to the protection of our laws, whether they can vote or not.	0
1091	RUBIO	Whether they can speak or not.	0
1092	RUBIO	Whether they can hire a lawyer or not.	0
1093	RUBIO	Whether they have a birth certificate or not.	0
1094	RUBIO	And I think future generations will look back at this history of our country and call us barbarians for murdering millions of babies who we never gave them a chance to live.	0
1095	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1096	KELLY	Mr. Trump, in 1999, you said you were, quote, "very pro- choice."	0
1097	KELLY	Even supporting partial-birth abortion.	0
1098	KELLY	You favored an assault weapons ban as well.	0
1099	KELLY	In 2004, you said in most cases you identified as a Democrat.	0
1100	KELLY	Even in this campaign, your critics say you often sound more like a Democrat than a Republican, calling several of your opponents on the stage things like clowns and puppets.	0
1101	KELLY	When did you actually become a Republican?	0
1102	SYSTEM	[ catcalls ]	0
1103	TRUMP	I don't think they like me very much.	0
1104	TRUMP	I'll tell you what.	0
1105	TRUMP	I've evolved on many issues over the years.	0
1106	TRUMP	And you know who else has?	0
1107	TRUMP	Is Ronald Reagan evolved on many issues.	0
1108	TRUMP	And I am pro-life.	0
1109	TRUMP	And if you look at the question, I was in business.	0
1110	TRUMP	They asked me a question as to pro-life or choice.	0
1111	TRUMP	And I said if you let it run, that I hate the concept of abortion.	0
1112	TRUMP	I hate the concept of abortion.	0
1113	TRUMP	And then since then, I've very much evolved.	0
1114	TRUMP	And what happened is friends of mine years ago were going to have a child, and it was going to be aborted.	0
1115	TRUMP	And it wasn't aborted.	0
1116	TRUMP	And that child today is a total superstar, a great, great child.	0
1117	TRUMP	And I saw that.	0
1118	TRUMP	And I saw other instances.	0
1119	TRUMP	And I am very, very proud to say that I am pro-life.	0
1120	TRUMP	As far as being a Republican is concerned, I come from a place, New York City, which is virtually, I mean, it is almost exclusively Democrat.	0
1121	TRUMP	And I have really started to see some of the negatives -- as an example, and I have a lot of liking for this man, but the last number of months of	0
1122	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1123	TRUMP	his brother's administration were a catastrophe.	0
1124	TRUMP	And unfortunately, those few months gave us President Obama.	0
1125	TRUMP	And you can't be happy about that.	0
1126	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1127	KELLY	Governor Bush, I want to ask you, on the subject of name calling of your fellow candidates, a story appeared today quoting an anonymous GOP donor who said you called Mr. Trump a clown, a buffoon, something else that cannot be repeated on television.	0
1128	BUSH	None of which is true.	0
1129	KELLY	Is it true?	0
1130	BUSH	No.	0
1131	BUSH	It's not true.	0
1132	BUSH	But I have said that Mr. Trump's language is divisive.	0
1133	BUSH	I want to win.	0
1134	BUSH	I want one of these people here or the ones at 5:00, to be the next president of the United States.	0
1135	BUSH	We're not going on win by doing what Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton do each and every day.	0
1136	BUSH	Dividing the country.	0
1137	BUSH	Saying, creating a grievance kind of environment.	0
1138	BUSH	We're going to win when we unite people with a hopeful, optimistic message.	0
1139	BUSH	I have that message because I was a governor of a state that saw people lifted up, because we had high sustained economic growth.	0
1140	BUSH	Our economy grew at double the rate of the nation.	0
1141	BUSH	We created 1.3 million jobs.	0
1142	BUSH	We led the nation seven out of those eight years.	0
1143	BUSH	We were only one of two states that went to AAA bond rating.	0
1144	BUSH	I cut taxes, $19 billion.	0
1145	BUSH	If you do that and apply conservative principles the right way, you create an environment where everybody rises up.	0
1146	BUSH	That's how we're going to win.	0
1147	BUSH	Campaigning in places to give people hope that their life is better because too many people are suffering today in America.	0
1148	KELLY	Mr. Trump, 30 seconds.	0
1149	TRUMP	First of all, Jeb, I am very happy that you denied that, and I appreciate that very much.	0
1150	TRUMP	He is a true gentleman.	0
1151	TRUMP	He really is.	0
1152	TRUMP	One thing he did say, and I mean that.	0
1153	TRUMP	The one thing he did say about me, however, was my tone.	0
1154	TRUMP	And I also understand that.	0
1155	TRUMP	But when you have people that are cutting Christians' heads off, when you have a world that the border and at so many places, that it is medieval times, we've never -- it almost has to be as bad as it ever was in terms of the violence and the horror, we don't have time for tone.	0
1156	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1157	TRUMP	We have to go out and get the job done.	0
1158	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1159	KELLY	The subject of gay marriage and religious liberty.	0
1160	KELLY	Governor Kasich, if you had a son or daughter who was gay or lesbian, how would you explain to them your opposition to same-sex marriage?	0
1161	KASICH	Well, look, I'm an old-fashioned person here, and I happen to believe in traditional marriage.	0
1162	KASICH	But I've also said the court has ruled --	0
1163	KELLY	How would you -- how would you explain it to a child?	0
1164	KASICH	Wait, Megyn, the court has ruled, and I said we'll accept it.	0
1165	KASICH	And guess what, I just went to a wedding of a friend of mine who happens to be gay.	0
1166	KASICH	Because somebody doesn't think the way I do, doesn't mean that I can't care about them or can't love them.	0
1167	KASICH	So if one of my daughters happened to be that, of course I would love them and I would accept them.	0
1168	KASICH	Because you know what?	0
1169	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1170	KASICH	That's what we're taught when we have strong faith.	0
1171	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1172	KASICH	So the issues like that, issues like that are planted to divide us.	0
1173	KASICH	I think the simple fact of the matter is, and this is where I would agree with Jeb, and I've been saying it all along, we need to give everybody a chance, treat everybody with respect, and let them share in this great American dream that we have, Megan.	0
1174	KASICH	So, look, I'm going to love my daughters, I'm going to love them no matter what they do.	0
1175	KASICH	Because, you know what,	0
1176	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1177	KASICH	God gives me unconditional love.	0
1178	KASICH	I'm going to give it to my family and my friends and the people around me.	0
1179	KELLY	Senator Paul, in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling on same sex marriage, Carol Fox on Facebook want to know the following.	0
1180	KELLY	Quote: what will you do to ensure Christians are not prosecuted for speaking out against gay marriage and will Christians be forced to conduct business that conflicts with their religious beliefs?	0
1181	PAUL	Look, I don't want my marriage or my guns registered in Washington.	0
1182	PAUL	And if people have an opinion, it's a religious opinion that is heartly felt, obviously they should be allowed to practice that and no government should interfere with them.	0
1183	PAUL	One of the things, one of the things that really got to me was the thing in Houston where you had the government, the mayor actually, trying to get the sermons of ministers.	0
1184	PAUL	When the government tries to invade the church to enforce its own opinion on marriage, that's when it's time to resist.	0
1185	KELLY	Governor Walker, many in the Black Lives Matter movement, and beyond, believe that overly-aggressive police officers targeting young African Americans is the civil rights issue of our time.	0
1186	KELLY	Do you agree?	0
1187	KELLY	And if so, how do you plan to address it?	0
1188	KELLY	And if not, why not?	0
1189	WALKER	Well, I think the most important thing we can do when it comes to policing -- it's something you've had a guest on who's a friend of mine Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark, who's talked to me about this many times in the past -- it's about training.	0
1190	WALKER	It's about making sure that law enforcement professionals, not only in the way in to their positions but all the way through their time, have the proper training, particularly when it comes to the use of force.	0
1191	WALKER	And that we protect and stand up and support those men and women who are doing their jobs in law enforcement.	0
1192	WALKER	And for the very few that don't, that there are consequences to show that we treat everyone the same here in America.	0
1193	KELLY	Thank you.	0
1194	MODERATOR	Coming up more of our debate, including questions about President Obama's foreign policy and these guys and their better ideas.	0
1195	MODERATOR	Coming up.	0
1196	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
1197	BAIER	Welcome back to Cleveland.	0
1198	BAIER	Our next topic is foreign policy.	0
1199	BAIER	Candidates, you may not have seen the late developing news today our Fox Pentagon team broke earlier this evening about a top Iranian general traveling to Moscow to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin.	0
1200	BAIER	His name is General Qassem Soleimani, he's blamed for hundreds of U.S. troop's deaths in Iraq, and Afghanistan.	0
1201	BAIER	His trip to Russia appears to directly violate U.N. Security Council resolutions to confine him to Iran.	0
1202	BAIER	So, Mr. Trump, if you were president, how would you respond to this?	0
1203	TRUMP	I would be so different from what you have right now.	0
1204	TRUMP	Like, the polar opposite.	0
1205	TRUMP	We have a president who doesn't have a clue.	0
1206	TRUMP	I would say he's incompetent, but I don't want to do that because that's not nice.	0
1207	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
1208	TRUMP	But if you look at the deals we make, whether it's the nuclear deal with 24 hour periods -- and by the way, before you get to the 24 hours, you have to go through a system.	0
1209	TRUMP	You look at Sgt.	0
1210	TRUMP	Bergdahl, we get Bergdahl, a traitor, and they get five of the big, great killers leaders that they want.	0
1211	TRUMP	We have people in Washington that don't know what they're doing.	0
1212	TRUMP	Now...	0
1213	SYSTEM	[ applause; scream from audience ]	0
1214	TRUMP	I agree.	0
1215	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1216	TRUMP	Now, with Iran, we're making a deal, you would say, we want him.	0
1217	TRUMP	We want out our prisoners.	0
1218	TRUMP	We want all these things, and we don't get anything.	0
1219	TRUMP	We're giving them $150 billion dollars plus, they are going to be -- I'll tell you what, if Iran was a stock, you folks should go out and buy it right now because you'll quadruple -- this, what's happening	0
1220	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1221	TRUMP	in Iran, is a disgrace, and it's going to lead to destruction in large portions of the world.	0
1222	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1223	BAIER	Another new development today, Senior Defense officials tell Fox they strongly suspect Russia was behind the cyber attack on the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs office...	0
1224	UNIDENTIFIED MALE	...Please.	0
1225	BAIER	...email.	0
1226	BAIER	This comes in the wake of the Director of National Intelligence blaming the Chinese for the largest ever cyber attack, stealing personal data of tens of millions of Americans.	0
1227	BAIER	Senator Cruz, in your view, have Russia and China committed acts of cyber war, and if you were president, what would you do about it?	0
1228	CRUZ	Well, Bret, of course they have, and over the last six and a half years we've seen the consequences of the Obama-Clinton foreign policy.	0
1229	CRUZ	Leading from behind is a disaster.	0
1230	CRUZ	We have abandoned and alienated our friends and allies, and our enemies are stronger.	0
1231	CRUZ	Radical Islam is on the rise, Iran's on the verge of acquiring a nuclear weapon, China is waging cyber warfare against America, Russia -- General Soleimani, you just mentioned, the Iranian general is the head of the al Quds forces.	0
1232	CRUZ	He's directly responsible for the murder of over 500 American servicemen in Iraq, and part of this Iranian deal was lifting the international sanctions on General Soleimani.	0
1233	CRUZ	The day General Soleimani flew back from Moscow to Iran was the day we believed that Russia used cyber warfare against the Joint Chiefs.	0
1234	CRUZ	We need a new commander in chief that will stand up to our enemies, and that will have credibility...	0
1235	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1236	CRUZ	It is worth emphasizing that Iran released our hostages in 1981 the day Ronald Reagan was sworn into office.	0
1237	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1238	BAIER	Dr. Carson, in August of 2012 President Obama famously declared Syrian President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons, quote, "that's a redline for us," and that there would be enormous consequences.	0
1239	BAIER	One year later, with overwhelming evidence the Assad had, in fact, used chemical weapons and crossed that red line, President Obama declined to use military force against the Assad regime.	0
1240	BAIER	As president, would you have used military force there?	0
1241	CARSON	Well, what we have to stop and think about is that we have weakened ourselves militarily to such an extent that if affects all of our military policies.	0
1242	CARSON	Our Navy is at its smallest size since 1917; our Air Force, since 1940.	0
1243	CARSON	In recent testimony, the commandant of the Marine Corps said half of the non-deployed units were not ready and you know, the sequester is cutting the heart out of our personnel.	0
1244	CARSON	Our generals are retiring because they don't want to be part of this, and at the same time, our enemies are increasing.	0
1245	CARSON	Our -- our friends can't trust us anymore.	0
1246	CARSON	You know, Ukraine was a nuclear-armed state.	0
1247	CARSON	They gave away their nuclear arms with the understanding that we would protect them.	0
1248	CARSON	We won't even give them offensive weapons.	0
1249	CARSON	You know, we turned our back on Israel, our ally.	0
1250	CARSON	You know, in a situation like that, of course Obama's not going to be able to do anything.	0
1251	CARSON	I would shore up our military first, because if you don't get the military right, nothing else is going to work.	0
1252	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1253	BAIER	Governor Walker, as president, what would you do if Russian President Vladimir Putin started a campaign to destabilize NATO allies Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, mirroring the actions Putin took at the early days of Ukraine?	0
1254	WALKER	Well first off, for the cyber attack with Russia the other day, it's sad to think right now, but probably the Russian and Chinese government know more about Hillary Clinton's e-mail server than do the members of the United States Congress.	0
1255	SYSTEM	[ laughter and applause ]	0
1256	WALKER	And -- and that has put our national security at risk.	0
1257	WALKER	If I am president, he won't think about that.	0
1258	WALKER	You know, Putin believes in the old Lenin adage: you probe with bayonets.	0
1259	WALKER	When you find mush, you push.	0
1260	WALKER	When you find steel, you stop.	0
1261	WALKER	Under Obama and Clinton, we found a lot of mush over the last two years.	0
1262	WALKER	We need to have a national security that puts steel in front of our enemies.	0
1263	WALKER	I would send weapons to Ukraine.	0
1264	WALKER	I would work with NATO to put forces on the eastern border of Poland and the Baltic nations, and I would reinstate, put in place back in the missile defense system that we had in Poland and in the Czech Republic.	0
1265	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1266	WALKER	We find steel.	0
1267	BAIER	Governor -- Governor Huckabee, the culture of the American military is definitely changing.	0
1268	BAIER	Women are moving into combat roles.	0
1269	BAIER	Don't Ask, Don't Tell has obviously been dropped.	0
1270	BAIER	And now Defense Secretary Ashton Carter recently directed the military to prepare for a moment when it is welcoming transgender persons to serve openly.	0
1271	BAIER	As commander in chief, how would you handle that?	0
1272	HUCKABEE	The military is not a social experiment.	0
1273	HUCKABEE	The purpose of the military is kill people and break things.	0
1274	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1275	HUCKABEE	It's not to transform the culture by trying out some ideas that some people think would make us a different country and more diverse.	0
1276	HUCKABEE	The purpose is to protect America.	0
1277	HUCKABEE	I'm not sure how paying for transgender surgery for soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines makes our country safer.	0
1278	HUCKABEE	We've reduced the military by 25 percent...	0
1279	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1280	HUCKABEE	... under President Obama.	0
1281	HUCKABEE	The disaster is that we've forgotten why we have a military.	0
1282	HUCKABEE	The purpose of it is to make sure that we protect every American, wherever that American is, and if an American is calling out for help, whether it's in Benghazi or at the border, then we ought to be able to answer it.	0
1283	HUCKABEE	We've not done that because we've decimated our military.	0
1284	HUCKABEE	We're flying B-52s.	0
1285	HUCKABEE	The most recent one that was put in service was November of 1962.	0
1286	HUCKABEE	A lot of the B-52s we're flying, we've only got 44 that are in service combat ready, and the fact is, most of them are older than me.	0
1287	HUCKABEE	And that's pretty scary.	0
1288	SYSTEM	[ laughter and applause ]	0
1289	BAIER	Senator Paul, the first budget you proposed as senator cut all financial aid to Israel.	0
1290	BAIER	You have since changed your view on that issue.	0
1291	BAIER	What made you change your mind.	0
1292	PAUL	Well, let's be clear, I'm the only one on the stage who actually has a five-year budget that balances.	0
1293	PAUL	I've put pencil to paper...	0
1294	UNKNOWN	I do.	0
1295	PAUL	... and I've said -- and I've said I would cut spending, and I've said exactly where.	0
1296	PAUL	Each one of my budgets has taken a meat axe to foreign aid, because I think we ought to quit sending it to countries that hate us.	0
1297	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1298	PAUL	I think we ought to quit sending it to countries that burn our flag.	0
1299	PAUL	Israel is not one of those.	0
1300	PAUL	But even Benjamin Netanyahu said that ultimately, they will be stronger when they're independent.	0
1301	PAUL	My position is exactly the same.	0
1302	PAUL	We shouldn't borrow money from China to send it anywhere, but why don't we start with eliminating aid to our enemies.	0
1303	BAIER	OK.	0
1304	BAIER	But you still say that Israel could be one of the countries that is cut from financial aid?	0
1305	PAUL	I still say exactly what my original opinion is.	0
1306	PAUL	Do you borrow money from China to send it to anyone?	0
1307	PAUL	Out of your surplus, you can help your allies, and Israel is a great ally.	0
1308	PAUL	And this is no particular animus of Israel, but what I will say, and I will say over and over again, we cannot give away money we don't have.	0
1309	PAUL	We do not project power from bankruptcy court.	0
1310	PAUL	We're borrowing a million dollars a minute.	0
1311	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1312	PAUL	It's got to stop somewhere.	0
1313	BAIER	Governor Christie, what do you think of that answer?	0
1314	CHRISTIE	Well, listen.	0
1315	CHRISTIE	You know, if we want to deal with these issues, we have to deal with them in a way that makes sense.	0
1316	CHRISTIE	I agree with what Dr. Carson said earlier.	0
1317	CHRISTIE	The first thing we need to do to make America stronger is to strengthen our military, and I put out a really specific plan: no less than 500,000 active duty soldiers in the Army.	0
1318	CHRISTIE	No less than 185,000 active duty marines in the Marine Corps.	0
1319	CHRISTIE	Bring us to a 350 ship Navy again, and modernize the Ohio class of submarines, and bring our Air Force back to 2,600 aircraft that are ready to go.	0
1320	CHRISTIE	Those are the kind of things that are going to send a clear message around the world.	0
1321	CHRISTIE	Those are the things that we need to start working on immediately to make our country stronger and make it better.	0
1322	CHRISTIE	Those are the things that we need to be able to be doing.	0
1323	CHRISTIE	And as we move towards dealing with foreign aid, I don't disagree with Senator Paul's position that we shouldn't be funding our enemies.	0
1324	CHRISTIE	But I absolutely believe that Israel is a priority to be able to fund and keep them strong and safe after eight years of this administration.	0
1325	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1326	BAIER	Governor, thank you.	0
1327	CRUZ	Brett, can I -- Brett, can I jump in on this one?	0
1328	BAIER	Senator, we're going to finish up with some more questions, thank you.	0
1329	KELLY	We have to stand you by, because after the break, we're going to let the candidates make their closing statements, their final thoughts, and . . .	0
1330	KELLY	God.	0
1331	KELLY	Stay tuned for that.	0
1332	SYSTEM	[ commercial break ]	0
1333	KELLY	Welcome back.	0
1334	KELLY	In our final moments here together, we're going to allow the candidates to offer their final thoughts.	0
1335	KELLY	But first, we want to ask them an interesting closing question from Chase Norton on Facebook, who wants to know this of the candidates: "I want to know if any of them have received a word from God on what they should do and take care of first."	0
1336	KELLY	Senator Cruz, start from you.	0
1337	KELLY	Any word from God?	0
1338	CRUZ	Well, I am blessed to receive a word from God every day in receiving the scriptures and reading the scriptures.	0
1339	CRUZ	And God speaks through the Bible.	0
1340	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1341	CRUZ	I'm the son of a pastor and evangelist and I've described many times how my father, when I was a child, was an alcoholic.	0
1342	CRUZ	He wasn't a Christian.	0
1343	CRUZ	And my father left my mother and left me when I was just three years old.	0
1344	CRUZ	And someone invited him to Clay Road Baptist Church.	0
1345	CRUZ	And he gave his heart to Jesus and it turned him around.	0
1346	CRUZ	And he got on a plane and he flew back to my mother and me.	0
1347	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1348	CRUZ	I would also note that the scripture tells us, "you shall know them by their fruit."	0
1349	CRUZ	We see lots of "campaign conservatives."	0
1350	CRUZ	But if we're going to win in 2016, we need a consistent conservative, someone who has been a fiscal conservative, a social conservative, a national security conservative.	0
1351	CRUZ	There are real differences among the candidates on issues like amnesty, like Obamacare, like religious liberty, like life and marriage.	0
1352	CRUZ	And I have been proud to fight and stand for religious liberty, to stand against Planned Parenthood, to defend life for my entire career.	0
1353	CRUZ	And I will be proud to continue to do so as president of the United States.	0
1354	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
1355	KELLY	Governor Kasich, same question.	0
1356	KASICH	Well, Megyn, my father was a mailman.	0
1357	KASICH	His father was a coal miner.	0
1358	KASICH	My mother's mother could barely speak English.	0
1359	KASICH	And their son today stands on this podium in the great state of Ohio not only as the governor, but a candidate for president of the United States.	0
1360	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
1361	KASICH	I do believe in miracles.	0
1362	KASICH	You know, I've had a lot of elections.	0
1363	KASICH	But my elections are really not about campaigns.	0
1364	KASICH	I tell my people that these are about a movement.	0
1365	KASICH	And a movement to do what?	0
1366	KASICH	To restore common sense.	0
1367	KASICH	A movement to do things like provide economic growth.	0
1368	KASICH	And a movement not to let anybody be behind.	0
1369	KASICH	You know, today the country is divided.	0
1370	KASICH	You asked a question about the police and the difficulty in communities.	0
1371	KASICH	We've got to unite our country again, because we're stronger when we are united and we are weaker when we are divided.	0
1372	KASICH	And we've got to listen to other people's voices, respect them, but keep in mind, and I believe in terms of the things that I've read in my lifetime, the Lord'is not picking us.	0
1373	KASICH	But because of how we respect human rights, because that we are a good force in the world, he wants America to be strong.	0
1374	KASICH	He wants America to succeed.	0
1375	KASICH	And he wants America to lead.	0
1376	KASICH	And nothing is more important to me than my family, my faith, and my friends.	0
1377	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
1378	KELLY	Governor Walker, same question.	0
1379	WALKER	Well, thanks, Megyn.	0
1380	WALKER	I'm certainly an imperfect man.	0
1381	WALKER	And it's only by the blood of Jesus Christ that I've been redeemed from my sins.	0
1382	WALKER	So I know that God doesn't call me to do a specific thing, God hasn't given me a list, a Ten Commandments, if you will, of things to act on the first day.	0
1383	WALKER	What God calls us to do is follow his will.	0
1384	WALKER	And ultimately that's what I'm going to try to do.	0
1385	WALKER	And I hope people've seen it in my state, even in the big challenges I took on when I had over 100,000 protesters in and around our capital, trying to do what I thought was the right thing.	0
1386	WALKER	It wasn't just how I took on those political battles.	0
1387	WALKER	It was ultimately how I acted.	0
1388	WALKER	Not responding in kind.	0
1389	WALKER	Not lashing out.	0
1390	WALKER	But just being decent going forward and living my life in a way that would be a testimony to him and our faith.	0
1391	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1392	KELLY	Senator Rubio, I want to ask you the same question.	0
1393	KELLY	But I do want to mention, a woman just came here to the stage and asked, what about the veterans?	0
1394	KELLY	I want to hear more about what these candidates are going to do for our nation's veterans.	0
1395	KELLY	So I put the question to you about God and the veterans, which you may find to be related.	0
1396	RUBIO	Well, first, let me say I think God has blessed us.	0
1397	RUBIO	He has blessed the Republican Party with some very good candidates.	0
1398	RUBIO	The Democrats can't even find one.	0
1399	RUBIO	[	0
1400	RUBIO	laughter ]	0
1401	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
1402	RUBIO	And I believe God has blessed our country.	0
1403	RUBIO	This country has been extraordinarily blessed.	0
1404	RUBIO	And we have honored that blessing.	0
1405	RUBIO	And that's why God has continued to bless us.	0
1406	RUBIO	And he has blessed us with young men and women willing to risk their lives and sometimes die in uniform for the safety and security of our people.	0
1407	RUBIO	Unfortunately today we have a VA that does not do enough for them.	0
1408	RUBIO	I am proud that last year we helped change the law.	0
1409	RUBIO	We changed the law to give the power to the VA secretary the ability to fire any executive that isn't doing their job.	0
1410	RUBIO	And it is outrageous they've only fired one person to date.	0
1411	RUBIO	When I'm president of the United States, we're going to have a VA that cares more about our veterans than about the bureaucrats who work at the VA.	0
1412	SYSTEM	[ cheering and applause ]	0
1413	KELLY	Dr. Carson, a question to you about God and his role, but also, one of the issues that the public was very interested in, and we touched on it earlier, is race relations in this country, and how divided we seem right now.	0
1414	KELLY	And what, if anything, you can do -- you would do as the next president to help heal that divide.	0
1415	CARSON	Well, I think the bully pulpit is a wonderful place to start healing that divide.	0
1416	CARSON	You know, we have the purveyors of hatred who take every single incident between people of two races and try to make a race war out of it, and drive wedges into people.	0
1417	CARSON	And this does not need to be done.	0
1418	CARSON	What we need to think about instead -- you know, I was asked by an NPR reporter once, why don't I talk about race that often.	0
1419	CARSON	I said it's because I'm a neurosurgeon.	0
1420	CARSON	And she thought that was a strange response.	0
1421	CARSON	And you say -- I said, you see, when I take someone to the operating room, I'm actually operating on the thing that makes them who they are.	0
1422	CARSON	The skin doesn't make them who they are.	0
1423	CARSON	The hair doesn't make them who they are.	0
1424	CARSON	And it's time for us to move beyond that.	0
1425	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1426	CARSON	Because...	0
1427	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1428	CARSON	...our strength as a nation comes in our unity.	0
1429	CARSON	We are the United States of America, not the divided states.	0
1430	CARSON	And those who want to destroy us are trying to divide us, and we shouldn't let them do it.	0
1431	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1432	BAIER	Now each candidate will make a closing statement.	0
1433	BAIER	You'll all have 30 seconds to make a closing statement for this debate.	0
1434	BAIER	We'll start with Ohio Governor John Kasich.	0
1435	KASICH	You know, tonight we hear about what people want to do.	0
1436	KASICH	I want to tell you what I've done.	0
1437	KASICH	I was a member of the Armed Services Committee for 18 years.	0
1438	KASICH	I spent a big chunk of my life studying national security issues and our role in the world.	0
1439	KASICH	No.	0
1440	KASICH	2.	0
1441	KASICH	I was the chairman of the House Budget Committee and one of the chief architects the last time we balanced a budget, and it was the first time we had done it since man walked on the moon.	0
1442	KASICH	We had a $5 trillion surplus and we cut taxes.	0
1443	KASICH	I spent ten years in the private sector, actually learning how business works.	0
1444	KASICH	And now I'm the governor of Ohio, and I inherited a state that was on the brink	0
1445	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1446	KASICH	of dying.	0
1447	KASICH	And we turned it all around with jobs and balanced budgets and rising credit and tax cuts, and the state is unified, and people have hope again in Ohio.	0
1448	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1449	KELLY	Governor Christie?	0
1450	CHRISTIE	Well, thank you, Megyn.	0
1451	CHRISTIE	Listen, I was born into a middle class family in New Jersey.	0
1452	CHRISTIE	My dad came home from serving in the Army after having lost his father, worked in the Breyers ice cream plant in Newark, New Jersey.	0
1453	CHRISTIE	Was the first person to graduate from college.	0
1454	CHRISTIE	He put himself through college at night.	0
1455	CHRISTIE	My mom was a secretary.	0
1456	CHRISTIE	I was appointed United States attorney on September 10, 2001.	0
1457	CHRISTIE	And I spent the next seven years of my career fighting terrorism and putting terrorists in jail.	0
1458	CHRISTIE	I'm a conservative, pro-life governor in a state where it is really tough to be both.	0
1459	CHRISTIE	A state like New Jersey, with lots of Democrats, but still we cut taxes, we balanced budgets.	0
1460	CHRISTIE	We fought	0
1461	SYSTEM	[ timer sounds ]	0
1462	CHRISTIE	the teacher's union.	0
1463	CHRISTIE	This president has had weak leadership, which has led to bad choices.	0
1464	CHRISTIE	We have got to stop worrying about being loved and start worrying about being respected.	0
1465	CHRISTIE	And that's exactly how I'll lead our country.	0
1466	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1467	WALLACE	Senator Paul, closing statement.	0
1468	PAUL	I'm a different kind of Republican.	0
1469	PAUL	I've introduced a five-year balanced budget.	0
1470	PAUL	I've introduced the largest tax cut in our history.	0
1471	PAUL	I stood for ten and a half hours on the Senate floor to defend your right to be left alone.	0
1472	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1473	PAUL	But I've also gone to Chicago.	0
1474	PAUL	I've gone to Detroit.	0
1475	PAUL	I've been to Ferguson, I've been to Baltimore, because I want our party to be bigger, better and bolder, and I'm the only one that leads Hillary Clinton in five states that were won by President Obama.	0
1476	PAUL	I'm a different kind of Republican.	0
1477	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1478	BAIER	Senator Marco Rubio.	0
1479	RUBIO	Thank you.	0
1480	RUBIO	You know, both of my parents were born into poor families on the island of Cuba.	0
1481	RUBIO	They came to America because it was the only place where people like them could have a chance.	0
1482	RUBIO	Here in this country, they never made it big, but the very purpose of their life was to give us the chance to do all the things they never could.	0
1483	RUBIO	My father was a bartender.	0
1484	RUBIO	And the journey from the back of that bar to this stage tonight, to me, that is the essence of the American dream.	0
1485	RUBIO	It is what makes our nation different.	0
1486	RUBIO	And I'm running for president because I want that to still be possible for the people trying to do that now.	0
1487	RUBIO	I run for president because I believe that we can't just save the American dream; we can expand it to reach more people and change more lives than ever before.	0
1488	RUBIO	And that's why I'm asking for your vote.	0
1489	RUBIO	So we can make America greater than it has ever been.	0
1490	RUBIO	And make of this century a new American century.	0
1491	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1492	BAIER	Thank you, Senator.	0
1493	KELLY	Senator Ted Cruz.	0
1494	CRUZ	If I'm elected president, let me tell you about my first day in office.	0
1495	CRUZ	The first thing I intend to do is to rescind every illegal and unconstitutional executive action taken by Barack Obama.	0
1496	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1497	CRUZ	The next thing I intend to do is instruct the Department of Justice to open an investigation into these videos and to prosecute Planned Parenthood for any criminal violations.	0
1498	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1499	CRUZ	The next thing I intend to do is instruct the Department of Justice and the IRS to start (sic) persecuting religious liberty, and then intend to cancel the Iran deal, and finally move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.	0
1500	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1501	CRUZ	I will keep my word.	0
1502	CRUZ	My father fled Cuba, and I will fight to defend liberty because my family knows what it's like to lose it.	0
1503	WALLACE	Dr. Carson, closing statement.	0
1504	CARSON	Well, I haven't said anything about me being the only one to do anything, so let me try that.	0
1505	CARSON	I'm the only one to separate Siamese twins...	0
1506	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
1507	CARSON	The -- the only one to operate on babies while they were still in mother's womb, the only one to take out half of a brain, although you would think, if you go to Washington, that someone had beat me to it.	0
1508	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
1509	CARSON	But I -- but I'm very hopeful that I'm not the only one who's willing to pick up the baton of freedom, because freedom is not free, and we must fight for it every day.	0
1510	CARSON	Every one of us must fight for it, because we're fighting for our children and the next generation.	0
1511	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1512	BAIER	Governor Mike Huckabee, closing statement.	0
1513	HUCKABEE	It seems like this election has been a whole lot about a person who's very high in the polls, that doesn't have a clue about how to govern.	0
1514	HUCKABEE	A person who has been filled with scandals, and who could not lead, and, of course, I'm talking about Hillary Clinton.	0
1515	SYSTEM	[ laughter ]	0
1516	HUCKABEE	I think America...	0
1517	UNKNOWN	Thank you.	0
1518	HUCKABEE	...is in trouble, but it's not beyond repair.	0
1519	HUCKABEE	But it's going to take leadership who sees the greatness of this country, and who believes that once again we can be one nation, under God.	0
1520	HUCKABEE	I'll be my best to do that, and thank you for your support.	0
1521	SYSTEM	[ applause ]	0
1522	KELLY	Governor Scott Walker.	0
1523	WALKER	Thanks.	0
1524	WALKER	I'm guy with a wife and two kids, and Harley.	0
1525	WALKER	One article called me "aggressively normal."	0
1526	WALKER	I ran for governor because I was worried about my kids' future.	0
1527	WALKER	Then, I took on the big government union bosses, and we won.	0
1528	WALKER	They tried to recall me, and we won.	0
1529	WALKER	They target us again, and we won.	0
1530	WALKER	We balanced the budget, cut taxes, and turned our state around with big, bold reforms.	0
1531	WALKER	It wasn't too late for Wisconsin, and it's not too late for America.	0
1532	WALKER	That's why I ask for your vote.	0
1533	WALLACE	Governor Bush, closing statement, sir.	0
1534	BUSH	Here's what I believe.	0
1535	BUSH	I believe we're at the verge of the greatest time to be alive in this world.	0
1536	BUSH	But Washington is holding us back.	0
1537	BUSH	How we tax, how we regulate.	0
1538	BUSH	We're not embracing the energy revolution in our midst, a broken immigration system that has been politicized rather than turning it into an economic driver.	0
1539	BUSH	We're not protecting and preserving our entitlement system or reforming for the next generation.	0
1540	BUSH	All these things languish while we have politicians in Washington using these as wedge issues.	0
1541	BUSH	Here's my commitment to you, because I did it as Florida.	0
1542	BUSH	We can fix these things.	0
1543	BUSH	We can grow economically and restore America's leadership in the world, so that everybody has a chance to rise up.	0
1544	BUSH	I humbly ask for your vote, whenever you're gonna get to vote, whenever the primary is.	0
1545	BUSH	Thank you all very much.	0
1546	BAIER	Mr. Trump, closing statement, sir.	0
1547	TRUMP	Our country is in serious trouble.	0
1548	TRUMP	We don't win anymore.	0
1549	TRUMP	We don't beat China in trade.	0
1550	TRUMP	We don't beat Japan, with their millions and millions of cars coming into this country, in trade.	0
1551	TRUMP	We can't beat Mexico, at the border or in trade.	0
1552	TRUMP	We can't do anything right.	0
1553	TRUMP	Our military has to be strengthened.	0
1554	TRUMP	Our vets have to be taken care of.	0
1555	TRUMP	We have to end Obamacare, and we have to make our country great again, and I will do that.	0
1556	TRUMP	Thank you.	0
1557	BAIER	Gentlemen, thank you.	0
1558	KELLY	It's over!	0
1559	BAIER	That's it.	0
1560	KELLY	Are you relieved?	0
1561	KELLY	You were nervous before, they -- they don't look relieved.	0
1562	KELLY	They look "get me outta here."	0
1563	KELLY	Thank you all very much, and that will do it for the first Republican primary debate night of the 2016 presidential race.	0
1564	KELLY	Our thanks to the candidates, who will now be joined by their families on stage.	0