Revolutionaries rework discussion

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Description

Revolutionaries have been recently a major point of discontent with its playstyle clashing with the MRP persistence nature of the server.
This issue is here to serve as a cohesive thread for discussion on suggestions for changes/improvements/replacements to revolutionaries

[Sully669]

The main issue with revs is definitely the aspect of forced conversion. While brainwashing is kind of an okay reason to suddenly be for the revolution it feels hollow to follow up with this, especially if you're violently getting dragged out of whatever you're doing.

I am proposing another approach to revs. One that can be played without a single shot being fired (if played right).

• Remove force conversions via flash
• Every head rev is getting a book called "The ledger" containing signatures of all members of the revolution. To convert someone to the revolution, they have to use a pen to sign their name into the ledger. Destroying one book removes every rev and head rev from the the antag role if they are not written into another book
• Security has to destroy all the ledgers to end the revolution
• The book grants access of everyone that has signed into the book. So if the CMO signs it for example, all of medical and the bridge are open for the head rev.
• Once at least 50% of the station personell or 50% of command have been converted, any headrev can go to the communication console and start proclaiming their manifest. Manifest proclamation takes 5 minutes in total. Non-converted security personnel should stop the headrev at any cost during this time. It is also possible that ERT is getting sent to stop it.
• After a succesful proclamation, the station is officially declared as "lost" and the evac shuttle immediately arrives, ending the round for revolutionary win including a payout for everyone that is a revolutionary at the end.

[QuantumAvali]

TBH, yeah, I had a similar idea, where taking inspiration from Delta-V's Ghost Role Antag, the Syndicate Recruiter, Revs could be replaced with an NT Recruiter Antag, or a merging of the idea, removing the flash to convert and instead having to do with signing paper, which would encourage RP interactions; something that I've heard a lot of complaints about.

[Toaster-Box]

I mentioned in a thread a bit ago that conspirators (with more HL appropriate goals) might also be a good replacement for revs
As it's still crew plotting against crew

[jimmy12or]

I mentioned in a thread a bit ago that conspirators (with more HL appropriate goals) might also be a good replacement for revs As it's still crew plotting against crew

Well, Revs are technically intended to be crew vs. Heads specifically, not as much crew vs. Crew. However the idea of it being the conspirators might be pretty cool too as a replacement.

[IngvarJackal]

Conspirators are very fun, I'd love to have them and custom objectives on HL regardless of replacing or just co-existing with revs