diff --git a/geonode/base/api/serializers.py b/geonode/base/api/serializers.py
index ac136d33bab..660eb8f1cba 100644
--- a/geonode/base/api/serializers.py
+++ b/geonode/base/api/serializers.py
@@ -69,6 +69,7 @@
 from geonode.security.utils import get_resources_with_perms, get_geoapp_subtypes
 from geonode.resource.models import ExecutionRequest
 from django.contrib.gis.geos import Polygon
+from geonode.security.registry import permissions_registry
 
 logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
 
@@ -523,7 +524,13 @@ class Meta:
     def to_representation(self, instance):
         request = self.context.get("request", None)
         resource = ResourceBase.objects.get(pk=instance)
-        return resource.get_user_perms(request.user) if request and request.user and resource else []
+        return (
+            permissions_registry.get_perms(instance=resource, user=request.user, include_virtual=True)["users"][
+                request.user
+            ]
+            if request and request.user and resource
+            else []
+        )
 
 
 class LinksSerializer(DynamicModelSerializer):
diff --git a/geonode/resource/manager.py b/geonode/resource/manager.py
index 4d8842c8a70..ba139d672ab 100644
--- a/geonode/resource/manager.py
+++ b/geonode/resource/manager.py
@@ -588,6 +588,7 @@ def set_permissions(
                         created=created,
                         approval_status_changed=approval_status_changed,
                         group_status_changed=group_status_changed,
+                        include_virtual=False,
                     )
 
                     """
@@ -800,7 +801,7 @@ def _safe_assign_perm(perm, user_or_group, obj=None):
                         uuid,
                         instance=_resource,
                         owner=owner,
-                        permissions=_resource.get_all_level_info(),
+                        permissions=permissions_registry.get_perms(instance=_resource, include_virtual=True),
                         created=created,
                     ):
                         # This might not be a severe error. E.g. for datasets outside of local GeoServer
diff --git a/geonode/security/handlers.py b/geonode/security/handlers.py
index ddfba19a539..f420a6c1be7 100644
--- a/geonode/security/handlers.py
+++ b/geonode/security/handlers.py
@@ -37,7 +37,14 @@ def __repr__(self):
         return self.__str__()
 
     @staticmethod
-    def fixup_perms(instance, perms_payload, *args, **kwargs):
+    def fixup_perms(instance, perms_payload, include_virtual, *args, **kwargs):
+        return perms_payload
+
+    @staticmethod
+    def get_perms(instance, perms_payload, user, include_virtual, *args, **kwargs):
+        """
+        By default we dont provide any additional perms
+        """
         return perms_payload
 
 
@@ -47,7 +54,7 @@ class AdvancedWorkflowPermissionsHandler(BasePermissionsHandler):
     """
 
     @staticmethod
-    def fixup_perms(instance, perms_payload, *args, **kwargs):
+    def fixup_perms(instance, perms_payload, include_virtual, *args, **kwargs):
         # Fixup Advanced Workflow permissions
         return AdvancedSecurityWorkflowManager.get_permissions(
             instance.uuid,
diff --git a/geonode/security/registry.py b/geonode/security/registry.py
index 512315186ee..af0db25c3a6 100644
--- a/geonode/security/registry.py
+++ b/geonode/security/registry.py
@@ -52,9 +52,25 @@ def __check_item(self, item):
         if not isinstance(item, BasePermissionsHandler):
             raise Exception(f"Handler {item} is not a subclass of BasePermissionsHandler")
 
-    def fixup_perms(self, instance, payload, *args, **kwargs):
+    def fixup_perms(self, instance, payload, include_virtual=True, *args, **kwargs):
         for handler in self.REGISTRY:
-            payload = handler.fixup_perms(instance, payload, *args, **kwargs)
+            payload = handler.fixup_perms(instance, payload, include_virtual, *args, **kwargs)
+        return payload
+
+    def get_perms(self, instance, user=None, include_virtual=True, *args, **kwargs):
+        """
+        Return the payload with the permissions from the handlers.
+        The permissions payload can be edited by each permissions handler.
+        For example before return the payload, we can virtually remove perms
+        to the resource
+        """
+        if user:
+            payload = {"users": {user: instance.get_user_perms(user)}, "groups": {}}
+        else:
+            payload = instance.get_all_level_info()
+
+        for handler in self.REGISTRY:
+            payload = handler.get_perms(instance, payload, user, include_virtual=include_virtual, *args, **kwargs)
         return payload
 
     @classmethod