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my Fadblock got detected 2 times as of now (growing concern) #196

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AverageYTuser opened this issue Jun 3, 2024 · 32 comments
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my Fadblock got detected 2 times as of now (growing concern) #196

AverageYTuser opened this issue Jun 3, 2024 · 32 comments

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@AverageYTuser
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AverageYTuser commented Jun 3, 2024

I was just opening a video for youtube then, the moment it skipped the ads, it displayed the "Adblock is not allowed on youtube" message, I had to refresh it to watch the video. This is a growing concern because even if the ads are played for a brief period it might still get detected anyways, note that I am using only Fadblock and no other adblocks.

edit: 3rd of June 9:04 am Ph time. It's already gotten worse, I have to refresh every video to watch

@pquodling
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pquodling commented Jun 3, 2024

Yup, seeing the same.

Even worse, removed and reloaded the extension and it appears to have stopped working completely.

@LazerHax
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LazerHax commented Jun 4, 2024

Can confirm, also seeing the same. Except for me, it's not even fast-forwarding the ads anymore.

@SheeepsAreNice
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SheeepsAreNice commented Jun 4, 2024

If you have ANY other adblocking extension installed – even if it's off or deactivated for YouTube – this is probably what is being detected. See this recently closed thread: #194

@AverageYTuser
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AverageYTuser commented Jun 5, 2024

Just checked and managed my extensions. For some reason I have Ublock origin installed I don't remember adding it to opera GX It probably got added during the constant updates of the Gx browser last week. Also the Opera adblocker doesn't work on my browser so I'll leave it be. Anyways I'll remove the Ublock on my browser. If I don't get the "violate terms bla bla bla" for the next coming videos I will be watching and the next 2 days, I'll consider the issue fixed.

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Edit: Just got an adblock warning after removing Ublock, Probably cause I freshly removed it

Edit 2: hours later and it's still showing me the warning. I might migrate back to Google cause I can't remove the built in adblocker of Opera GX

@SheeepsAreNice
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Edit 2: hours later and it's still showing me the warning. I might migrate back to Google cause I can't remove the built in adblocker of Opera GX

Try clearing your cookies and browser cache, and sign out and back in to your Google account.

@AverageYTuser
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AverageYTuser commented Jun 5, 2024

Sweet! It worked. Only problem is I just noticed that it removed the recommended videos on the right side of Yt. But I don't mind.

Alright, day 1 checked. Few problems encountered but disappeared after clearing cookies and cache

Day 2 update: no issues, pretty good. Hopefully the last day won't disappoint

Day 3 update (Final): UNFORTUNATELY, it disappointed. It showed up again damn it. Do I have to clear browser data again?

@0x48piraj
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Thanks a lot for helping out @SheeepsAreNice, you're awesome!

@bencgtravels
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bencgtravels commented Jun 7, 2024

Hi there. I've been using Fadblock for a few months since the crackdown on Ad Blockers came in, but I have found it's been getting detected on and off with increasing frequency lately, and it's happened several times today. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Fablock Origin after reading about the front page post, I have cleared my cookies and cache and restarted my PC, but the issue is still coming back, even when I completely disable AdBlock for all other websites. I'm using Firefox FWIW. Hope this can be fixed soon. Thanks.

@AverageYTuser
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Yeah I just updated my day 3 update. It sucks that it's back. I thought I was gonna be able to watch in peace. Now the "Adblock not allowed" is acting like an annoying Mormon again.

@pquodling
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I am still seeing ads. I am on a 2017 MBP running Veentura 13.6.7 and firefox 126.0.1

I removed and reinstalled the extension, removed completely any possible extensions that might interfere, cleared cookies and cache, and logged out of and into again, Google/Youtube. Still getting ads non stop.

@ynkfish
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ynkfish commented Jun 10, 2024

Getting detected in chrome as well (currently on v125.0.6422.78)

@jacanteros
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Same situation here. Meanwhile, I’m watching YT videos on Duck Player.

@AverageYTuser
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YouTube did get their games up. I'm using Fadblock on incognito mode in OperaGx (doesn't get detected in incog including chrome and others).

I guess, see you all again when YouTube loosens their Anti adblock shenanigans.

@0x48piraj
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As said, the extension works and is daily used by me and most of my peers. The moment it really stops working, I fix it up.

To all those who are running other adblockers side by side, I cannot help, they are getting detected. Worse yet, YouTube puts a tracker when detected and that causes the "I deleted the other adblockers and I am still getting detected" queries.

Even after logging out, clearing out the cookies and logging back in sometimes doesn't fix the issue for some (it fixed for most of us) hinting they are marking the accounts using adblockers server-side but I can't say for sure as FadBlock works perfectly for me as of now and many of the supporters I have talked to over the email.

@bencgtravels
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bencgtravels commented Jun 22, 2024

Point taken on Youtube potentially marking accounts behind the scenes. It's a weird one for me, because I downloaded a different extension that mutes and fast-forwards ads instead of 'skipping' them like Fadblock. It's a much bigger disruption still, but it did work when Fadblock stopped. But, then YouTube started detecting the fast-forwarder too, so now I'm running both Fadblock and the fast-forwarder together and now it seems to be ok again.

Either way, if I have YouTube completely whitelisted on my regular Adblocker I use everywhere else online, and Fadblock is the only Youtube-ad-specific extension I have installed, but its getting detected, you can see why people would think YouTube is detecting Fadblock. If you insist it isn't, what would you suggest we do please? I do mean this in the nicest way of course, with gratitude. :)

@PVTejas
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PVTejas commented Jun 26, 2024

Tested it a bit, and if fadblock is active and a pre-roll ad is fast-forwarded, youtube shows a message saying adblockers are not allowed. Activating the extension after the ad starts playing (like, within half a second) skips the ad and doesn't trigger adblock detection

@0x48piraj
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I am keeping an eye out but so far, it's genuinely working for my and everyone else and by recent reviews - it's being solidified.

To be perfectly candid, I have had some FF'ing of videos when I am watching a mix and I am working on that (no YouTube Adblocker banners though).

@AverageYTuser
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Oh so the Daily or often YouTube watchers get marked with the "adblockers not allowed" pop-up in my understanding. Well I spend watching YouTube everyday, no wonder I got these pop-up warnings.

By the way I'm still watching YouTube in incognito, I'll probably return to using my account in August and see if Yt don't detect me anymore.

@PVTejas
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PVTejas commented Jul 1, 2024

Further updates: after turning fadblock on after about 5 seconds of ads for a few times, it doesn't seem to be getting detected anymore. Unless the extension has been updated, I think sitting through ads for a few seconds longer over a couple of days could help.

@JTH366
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JTH366 commented Jul 1, 2024

Unfortunately Fadblock has stopped working for me on Chrome. I have deleted cookies and history, turned Fadblock on and off but the issue remains.

@SheeepsAreNice
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I'm starting to believe that they might be marking accounts server-side. The last time I got a generic blocker warning was about two weeks ago – signing out and deleting cookies and site info solved it in brave. However, today I got a first-strike blocker warning – signing out and deleting cookies and site info has again solved it, but if in time I get a second-strike warning that might prove it.

@jacanteros
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jacanteros commented Jul 3, 2024 via email

@AverageYTuser
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AverageYTuser commented Jul 3, 2024

"what would you guys do?"

In a friendly way, "Incognito mode" either chrome or opera, etc. It may be trouble for some but for me it was when I started using it most of the time, now I've adjusted to it already, been pretty chill in incog ever since.

@seebeedub
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I believe FBO is being detected as I am getting the "Ad blockers violate YouTube's Terms of Service" dialog box.
It started for me today but I've not watched YT much lately so my timing might be off, it may have started in the last day or two. .
I have a few blockers, all whitelisted to YT and everything has been great till this week. When playing YT the only extension not whitelisted is FBO. I followed YT instructions to be in compliance with these other blockers.
After getting the dialog box and following their instructions again (there were no changes I needed to make to comply with their orders except FBO was still there) I disabled FBO by managing all extensions. YT plays ads again with all the normal extensions enabled and whitelisted as they have been for months and YT is happy to have my eyeballs watching ads.
YT works normally with FBO disabled but I get their dialog box when FBO is enabled. As a test I disabled all extensions except FBO and I get the dialog. Another test I enabled all extensions except FBO (with YT whitelisted in all of the others) and YT works perfectly as they like it; showing ads at normal speed.
I don't believe they track me server side or have cookies set to say I'm a known ad block user since everything is immediately resolved when I simply disable FBO. I think they are simply detecting FBO when it is running and giving me their dialog box if FBO is running when it's time to serve up an ad.
I think it's far more likely they have rolled this update out to part of the community (and are occasionally reading this site to see how their changes are working) before they roll out their YT changes to the world. It makes sense they would let FBO go for a while since revenue was not affected and now they have gotten around to testing some detection code.
Chrome Version 126.0.6478.127
I'm happy to help test if you like.
Cheers

@jacanteros
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FadBlock gets detected once again...

@0x48piraj
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Hello everyone, I hope you’re all doing well. As people mentioned, signing out, clearing cookies, signing back in can be quite helpful but only as a temporary fix.

Life has been tough lately, and it seems the same issue is now affecting my region too, just like many of you. This gives me the opportunity to debug and work towards a solution. I’ve been testing new patches with our internal testers from around the world over email, but progress has been a bit slow. Thank you for your patience.

@0x48piraj
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Just pushed the new update, 2.0 is coming!

To the loyal existing users, thank you for your support. Simply log in to your accounts, as I have securely migrated all your data, ensuring a seamless transition without the need for account creation or additional payments.

For those who have been using the extension for free, I appreciate your interest in our service. Please note that while you will no longer experience pop-ups, you will need to start a trial account to continue enjoying FadBlock. After the 7-day trial, a lifetime membership will be required to access all features.

Read the project home for more information.

Thank you for being part of our journey!

@ZMYaro
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ZMYaro commented Oct 14, 2024

Very disappointing that, after months of losing FadBlock users' trust trying to gaslight us into believing there wasn't even an issue with the extension, your next announcement after conceding there was, indeed, an issue, is taking the extension closed-source.

@SheeepsAreNice
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Very disappointing that, after months of losing FadBlock users' trust trying to gaslight us into believing there wasn't even an issue with the extension, your next announcement after conceding there was, indeed, an issue, is taking the extension closed-source.

The author has not tried to gaslight anyone and had said said that specified issues weren't something they'd been able to reproduce. If you read the extra information at the link they've provided, they've said that the existing version of the extension will remain free to use. What you mean by 'very disappointed' is that you can't get something for nothing any more. Support the author like I did or freeload elsewhere.

@ZMYaro
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ZMYaro commented Oct 14, 2024

@SheeepsAreNice I apologize, “gaslight” was probably too charged a word, but repeatedly calling the extension “undetectable” and closing tickets as “completed” for months while the issue was still very much present absolutely hurts my trust in him. I don't have an issue with developers requesting money for their work (I do myself!); I am disappointed the new version will be closed-source, and so more difficult for people to verify what all it is doing.

@SheeepsAreNice
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I understand what you're saying. I apologise also as the tone of my response was very accusatory.

@0x48piraj
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@ZMYaro The extension was undetectable, until YouTube started experimenting with this. But still, it's not my fault if people stack adblockers over adblockers, get caught and marked when it's clearly stated not to do so in the documentation.

Furthermore, it was working for me and countless others until very recently without any problems. You don't believe me? Peruse through reviews and you'd see one comment every week.

As for being closed-source, it has been the case for months now. The 1.3 which was going strong for months was also closed-source and this was not a new announcement, but a reiteration. Again, here for transparency.

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